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| Monadnock Guide |
Posted - January 05 2009 : 4:03:21 PM
http://articles.latimes.com/2002/dec/15/news/adna-jane15 |
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| Monadnock Guide |
Posted - June 03 2009 : 6:45:00 PM
That was good seamus, - enjoyed it. ... Along that line, I'm reading a book called "The Cruise Of The Cachalot" a whaler, working in the late 1800's. (Cachalot is a term for whale) ... The fourth mate is a negro name Goliath, one of the best whalers on board. He's had a tough time from the Captain since leaving port over a year ago, who hates everyone, but him the most. There's only one seaman he can talk with, - and one night on deck does.
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"In tones quite unlike his previous voice he said that he was not an American born negro, but a pure African, who had been enslaved since infancy with his mother. He was from Guinea, and he and his mother escaped to Liberia, where they remained until her death. Before her death, she had told him he would die suddenly, violently in a struggle with a white man in a far off country, but that the white man would die too by his hand. She told him he would be a great traveler, and hunter upon the sea."
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The next night he got into a struggle with the captain, - and both ended up going overboard, locked in combat all the way under. Neither was ever seen again, although the ship stayed inn the area searching, even had two boats swung out and made ready in case at least a body surfaced.
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The book is from the Narrative Press" - some really great "first hand" accounts of exploration and adventure. .. www.narrativepress.com |
| Seamus |
Posted - June 03 2009 : 11:20:59 AM
Here's more:
http://www.readbookonline.net/readOnLine/2027/ |
| Monadnock Guide |
Posted - June 03 2009 : 09:14:03 AM
Very interesting tale seamus. |
| Fitzhugh Williams |
Posted - June 03 2009 : 08:55:06 AM
That one and some others. I know it's not unusual for soldiers on the eve of battle to think they are going to die, but this story goes way beyond that. It would be interesting to know if there are any family papers or journals that predate the year 1758 that mention Ticonderoga. This is one story that might be worth researching.
When I was at Joumonville's Glenn I felt a strange presence there, but later attributed it to the fact that I had some one dollar bills in my pocket!  |
| Seamus |
Posted - June 03 2009 : 06:09:59 AM
Can't say, Fitz, with certainty. Sure makes a good story, though. Robert Louis Stevenson was the original perpetrator of the Legend, so, who knows? The story has been embellished over the years, especially by Inverawe's family. Is this what you were looking at?
http://greensleeves.typepad.com/berkshires/2008/01/the-pipers-refr.html |
| Obediah |
Posted - June 03 2009 : 12:40:13 AM
For some peculiar reason, seeing that poor Jane's skull has disappeared put me in mind of that 'classic' olde English ditty about Anne Boleyn, the chorus of which goes:
quote:
With her 'ead tucked underneath her arm,
She walks the bloody Tower,
With her head tucked underneath her arm,
At the midnight hour.
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| Fitzhugh Williams |
Posted - June 02 2009 : 9:06:02 PM
Do you suppose that story is true. Or could it have been one of those things that get started after the fact. If there is some record of him mentioning Ticonderoga before he actually went there, then maybe it is really true? |
| Seamus |
Posted - May 31 2009 : 2:46:22 PM
Yepper, Fitz....that's the same guy. |
| Dockpost |
Posted - May 31 2009 : 1:18:39 PM
Hey, what a rush!! I wrote that little piece for a website I had way back when and I was really surprized to see it posted here. It was called Lakegeorge-NY.com, someone else owns it now. But I just started another Lake George website and am adding the History Page. It looks the same as the old one (I used the same template) and its at http://www.lakegeorgenews.com
My hope is to fill it up with good stuff about the Adirondacks, Lake George and naturally the French and Indian War and Revolutionary war. But it takes time and lots of it. Anyone wanting to post articles, pictures, questions is welcome to do so. Just go to the site and follow the "links request". Or email me directly at dockpost@hotmail.com
As for Jane, I still think she was killed by Indians allied to the British. The account that she was shot by Americans would be nothing more than an attempt by Burgoyne to quell the outrage at her being killed at the hands of Indians supposedly under his control.
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| Fitzhugh Williams |
Posted - January 06 2009 : 6:17:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Monadnock Guide
TODAY her body rests in at the Union Cemetery in Fort Edward, next to the body of Duncan Campbell of Inverawe.
So this Duncan Cambell is the same guy in the poem that Seamus posted last summer about Ticonderoga? Was a Cameron in the poem. Also found this on a web site:
quote:
"And up through the Champlain came the Highland Brigade
The pipes and the drummer played 'Scotland the Brave.'
But when they sailed home the piper's refrain
Was, Oh, how cruel the volley."
Amazing, since Scotland the Brave wasn't written for another 150 years. |
| Wilderness Woman |
Posted - January 06 2009 : 6:01:30 PM
Poor, poor Jane McCrea. Not only does she carry the dubious honor of being the subject of a search that brought me right squarely to this very website, and thereby began a whole series of events that have changed my life, but she has also been dug up and reburied more times than my dog's favorite bone!
Here is a very interesting article I found. Jane's Body Exhumed As you will read, Fitz, she was, indeed, exhumed in 2002, reburied, then exhumed again in 2005. This was, of course, after two early exhumations in the early 19th century. That makes four times! How much can a poor body take, I ask you!
Unfortunately, it was discovered in 2002 that poor Jane has lost her head. Literally. They did not find her skull. So, I'm afraid we will never know if Jane McCrea was really killed by a tomahawk blow to her skull. And so... the guessing and the controversy will go on. |
| Monadnock Guide |
Posted - January 06 2009 : 5:29:45 PM
Poor Jane
Courtesy Ft. Edward Historical Association, Ft. Edward, NY
For more information, Call 518-747-9600 or write them at
P.O. Box 106, Ft. Edward, NY 12828-0106
The Ft. Edward Historical Association has no affiliation with this page
FOR JANE, wedding plans are interrupted for eternity. In the time it takes an Indian "tommyhawk" to enter Janes skull, the bright morning sun will be gone forever. Poor Jane is about to meet up with the same murdering savage indians that had butchered a family in nearby Argyle only hours before. British authority and the promise of British protection mean nothing to the savages, and can do precious little to spare the life of this young girl.
ACCOUNTS of her murder vary widely, but the general consensus seems to be that Jane was murdered by Indians allied to the British, and under the control (or lack thereof) of General Burgoyne. Modern day politically correct Indian apologists would like to portray Jane's murder as an act committed by American soldiers, accidentally killing her as they fired on the British. Truth is that it was Indians who killed Jane for nothing more than the thrill of killing the poor young girl, a motive that was far to common in Jane's day. Her death did rally many to the cause of the Revolution, as the feeling amongst the locals was that British rule could not be trusted to ensure the safety of the land.
SHE WAS BURIED buried about three miles south of the Fort Edward, on the banks of Three Mile Creek. A monument now marks the spot where she was originally buried. Head south on RT 4 from Fort Edward. It's on the right side of the road.
AUTOPSY reports also vary. Eyewitness accounts however have Jane alive and well one second, and a tomahawk sunk into her skull the next. Bullet holes in her body were said to be from the Americans firing on the British, just opposite the present day high school in Ft. Edward. What really happened though is that Jane was murdered and scalped by Indians. the bullet holes were an afterthought, designed to throw the blame for her death on American soldiers. After all, just how do you explain the murder of a British subject by Indians allied to the British, and supposedly under British control?
TODAY her body rests in at the Union Cemetery in Fort Edward, next to the body of Duncan Campbell of Inverawe. |
| Monadnock Guide |
Posted - January 05 2009 : 8:06:24 PM
Dunno Fitz, - I'll see if I can get something on it. I'd say she most likely wasn't shot. |
| Fitzhugh Williams |
Posted - January 05 2009 : 7:48:14 PM
The article dates from 2002. I wonder what happened. |
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