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Fitzhugh Williams Posted - July 31 2008 : 01:08:25 AM
http://www.capebretonpost.com/index.cfm?main=broadcast&bcid=8117

Note the figure in all blue carrying a 1728 with a red sling and a gibern.

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Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 20 2008 : 3:46:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Wilderness Woman


I am curious about the predominant hairstyle on the French soldiers. What is with the straight sidelocks that hang down to about chin level?



Yep! That was a style. Notice I didn't say "the" style. And I have never seen this on anything other than a Canadien. Wait. I take that back. Look an John Cameron in the night scene at the cabin when the three amigos arrive with the elk meat. Also note that Hawkeye is leading a horse. Where did that come from? But I digress. Yes, that was a style, and sometimes the sides were braided. This year I let my hair grow out some and tried to get the sides long enough to wear that way. I did grow them to about the bottom of my ears, but they seemed to always curl up. My hair, not my ears! And I got lots of complaints from the wife on a daily basis. So the hair got cut. I am thinking maybe I will get another "wee wiggie" from Madame Joan and have the side pieces added.
Wilderness Woman Posted - August 20 2008 : 12:43:33 PM
Yeah, right. [WW turns away in disgust at this Frenchman's audacity and continuing drive to make the whole world France.]

I think that Madame may actually be Evalyn Bouchard, who posts on the 18cWoman list. She has posted photos of herself before, and it sure does look like the same person. I went back to her photo site and looked around some more. I am very impressed with their... impressions. She writes with the cutest French Canadian accent, btw.

I am curious about the predominant hairstyle on the French soldiers. What is with the straight sidelocks that hang down to about chin level?

Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 19 2008 : 08:57:28 AM
It would be a lot simpler if you just gave up and became French (as you know you really want to).

All I know about Madame de Prigny and her group is just what I read on their site. Until I saw that, I thought they were part of the Louisbourg staff. They occupied one of the more important buildings and were demonstrating for the tourists. This was on Thursday, and the event didn't start until Friday. Thursday was set up day. So after I pitched my tent and changed into some civilian clothes, I started wandering around the town to see the sights. I really thought what they did was part of their daily routine. There were so many others who were part of the staff that it was hard to tell who was who. Also, factoring into all this was the fact that I had started driving around 9:00 AM on Wednesday morning and arrived at Louisbourg at around 7:00 AM on Thursday morning. Nonstop. Aided by four 20oz. cans of Red Bull. So I was feeling a little like a zombie and probably didn't take things in as well as I would have liked to. But I was determined to take advantage of all the time I had there, and sleeping was not the way to do it. I did nap for a couple of hours late in the day, then stayed at the tavern until about midnight. I would love to go back as a touron and just take in the sights. There will be another event in 2013 which will not feature any battles, just a celebration of the founding of Louisbourg in 1713. I plan to be there then with all my civilian clothes and just have a good time.
Wilderness Woman Posted - August 18 2008 : 10:27:17 PM
Oh, Wow! Very impressive, indeed. They do it right. Who is she? Do you know her name?

Well, you know.... the French always did, and still do, have a major influence on fashion. Even when France and England were at war, the Fashion Babies (dolls that were used to show the latest fashions to the world) were given special travel priority from Paris to London. The English ladies must wear the latest from Paris!

A good researcher uses all possible means, whether it be an English painting or a French painting. One just needs to be able to filter out what is appropriate for the right impression one is trying to achieve and what is not. Chardin and Boucher are two very popular sources for middle to lower class life. But, we also look at English artists like Hogarth, Reynolds, and Gainsborough, and at American painters like Copley, Benjamin West and the Peales.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 18 2008 : 3:29:15 PM
WW, I see that Madame de Prigny is posting on the FF-18th Century Frontier Women forum. She, and the others in their group were at Louisbourg demonstrating life in the city. They were set up in one of the houses along the waterfront and were at dinner when I arrived. They had their servants and all. Very impressive. Did you see the link to their pages?



http://lashim.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album53

Also, and just an observation, isn't it strange how "Enghish" women seem to use French paintings for their documentation?
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 03 2008 : 2:03:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Wilderness Woman


I was quite taken with the photo of Nikki. She is beautiful.



Ya got that right, pilgrim!!!

One night it was cold and misty and her fire needed more wood. So she got some logs and split them. People stopped to watch. The guys around didn't offer to help because (1) she didn't need any help and (2) she was doing a better job than they could have. Oh, and she had her two children with her, one 7 and one 5. My impression of her is that she is a reincarnation of Nancy Ward, Cherokee War Woman and Beloved Woman. Google Nancy Ward sometimes.
Wilderness Woman Posted - August 03 2008 : 12:48:40 PM
Fort Beausejour reminds me a lot of Crown Point, except, of course, CP doesn't have the underground rooms. Yes, beautiful, bleak, and probably very haunted.

I was quite taken with the photo of Nikki. She is beautiful.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 03 2008 : 12:02:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Wilderness Woman

Here is a link that a woman on the F&IWomen list sent through. She is an "artistic" photographer and her photos focus on people. But she also took some nice vignette photos of interior of some of the buildings.
Louisbourg If you look at page 4 of her photos, you will see a photo on the top left titled "Walking." The two people pictured are Paul and Kelly Perine, who are members of our Augusta Regiment.



In the pictures of "Aboriginals", the two people pictured are Kenny Hamilton and Nikki. She in a Penobscot and they live in Bangor Maine. We stopped by their house on the way up and back. They are very impressive. When they left Louisbourg they went to a island where there was a gathering of Micmacs. They were expecting at least 300 and were keeping ferrys runing 24 hours a day.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - August 03 2008 : 11:42:08 AM
Louisbourg is Louisbourg, and there is only one. BUT, on the way there you pass Fort Beausejour, taken by the Brits in 1755 about the time of the Acadian deportation. It stands between New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. Some of the original underground storage rooms are still there. There is a great visitor's center and museum. Anyone care to spend the night there?













Wilderness Woman Posted - August 03 2008 : 09:42:09 AM
Yes, Fitz, that is the same movie. I think there is a thread about it here somewhere in which we discussed it at some length.

Here is a link that a woman on the F&IWomen list sent through. She is an "artistic" photographer and her photos focus on people. But she also took some nice vignette photos of interior of some of the buildings.
Louisbourg If you look at page 4 of her photos, you will see a photo on the top left titled "Walking." The two people pictured are Paul and Kelly Perine, who are members of our Augusta Regiment.

And here is a link that a man on the F&IWar list sent through. You saw this one, Fitz, but I thought others might be interested. He got some absolutely beautiful battle shots, so be sure to go through all of his pages.
More Louisbourg
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - July 31 2008 : 5:32:18 PM
"Battle of the Brave"? Isn't that what the English call the movie "Nouvelle France"? I have a DVD of Nouvelle France (in French, of course). Not the best movie, but it does have good scenes. And "animators" would loosely translate to reenactors, or perhaps interpreters.

While at Louisbourg I looked into becoming a part of the Garde Rapproch du Marquis de Montcalm at Quebec next summer, but it involves intensive training sessions beginning in January. So I told Cindy that it would only be for six months, and I would only have to go to Quebec maybe every other week or so. It seems she did not share my enthusiasm. So that is out. But there are some other possibilities. C'est dommage!
Wilderness Woman Posted - July 31 2008 : 5:04:36 PM
I found a couple of websites about the Fortress, and I am amused that they call the living history interpreters who work there "animators." Why do I suddenly have this visual of cartoon mice dressed in 18th century clothing running around the place?

Now I have to go and watch "Battle of the Brave" again, to look more closely at the sets.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - July 31 2008 : 3:58:15 PM
There is really nothing like this anywhere in America. It is totally 18th century. The modern town is small and on the other side of the harbor. Many times you can't even see it. I don't know where you can find this kind of experience except maybe in Europe. I talked with the site director and his opinion was that the reenactors actually brought the town to life. About 7:00 the crowds have settled down and most of the side streets are deserted. You can walk along them and see nothing that is not 18th century. A couple passes but they are dressed the same as you. At night the fog drifts in and you walk along the streets with a lantern in hand. You are not really sure which century you are in, or if you will go back to the 21st.
Wilderness Woman Posted - July 31 2008 : 1:10:28 PM
Absolutely incredible.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - July 31 2008 : 10:44:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by SgtMunro

Looks like you had a good time Fitz!! I agree with Seamus, if it wasn't for the distance (And a good deal of my discretionary time-off being allocated for family), I would have loved to have been there. I will make it there eventually... Since I do have an odd knack for showing up in the most interesting locales.

YMH&OS,
The Sarge



I was away nine days. I carpooled with a friend and split the gas and motel, so it was only half as much as if I had traveled alone. I didn't realize how much farther is would be after we left Bangor, Maine, but it was a LONG way, and a lot of open country. I also stopped by Fort Beausejour on the way back. It is almost worth the trip in itself!
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - July 31 2008 : 10:39:34 AM
The next event will be 2013 which is the 300th anniversary of the founding of the city.

Now picture these scenes after the visitors have left and everyone is in 18th century clothing. It IS the 18th century.




























SgtMunro Posted - July 31 2008 : 09:55:34 AM
Looks like you had a good time Fitz!! I agree with Seamus, if it wasn't for the distance (And a good deal of my discretionary time-off being allocated for family), I would have loved to have been there. I will make it there eventually... Since I do have an odd knack for showing up in the most interesting locales.

YMH&OS,
The Sarge
Seamus Posted - July 31 2008 : 06:15:07 AM
Huzzah! Too bad the place is so far away...............

Good job, Fitz! Glad you got back safely.
Monadnock Guide Posted - July 31 2008 : 06:05:33 AM
Excellent Fitz, ...
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - July 31 2008 : 01:11:46 AM





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