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| Christie |
Posted - June 30 2004 : 3:40:47 PM
 I hate to say "Happy" anniversary, but we're coming to the 250th date of the start of the F&I war. According to an article I read, " The 22-year-old Washington and his Virginia militia surrendering to a larger French and Indian force at Fort Necessity, near present-day Uniontown, Pa., on July 4, 1754, in what many historians consider the first battle of the war. "
Although I love history, I'm not a true historian, and I know a lot of you out there could talk circles around me about the nine-year war and all its battles. But I thought I would mention this as this group would understand the significance of the anniversary.
I did a little surfing on the web and pasted two sites that I thought would be of interest to everyone.
Enjoy,
Christie
French and Indian War Commemoration -- Events
http://www.frenchandindianwar250.org/events.cfm
History's first world war -- Article from The Journal News
http://www.thejournalnews.com/newsroom/062004/B4web3travelfrench.html] |
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| 42ndOfficer |
Posted - September 06 2004 : 01:57:24 AM
It is now in the planning stages to have a reenactment of Braddock's Defeat at Old Bedford Village on July 9th(Saturday)2005.If anyone is interested,please e-mail me for details. |
| SgtMunro |
Posted - September 03 2004 : 02:31:03 AM
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Lonewolf asks: Will the Battle of the Monongahela (Braddock's defeat) be any better?
Only if the NPS or PHMC are not involved in the event...
Your Most Humble Servant,
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| lonewolf |
Posted - September 03 2004 : 02:05:43 AM
I noticed that the Ft. Necessity event was not a re-enactment. I am not sure what it was. Why do they bother having you guys show up, if you can't re-enact the actual battle. Hell, they could have simply put up some cardboard cut-outs for the tourists to look at. They really didn't appreciate me being there in my Shawnee regalia, and telling our side of the battle. I guess it doesn't make George Washington appear to be the hero that they would like the tourists to believe.
These Ohio Company, Virginian buttholes were there to steal our land! Of course we were going to fight.
I had fun talking to visitors, but I wish that you guys would have been allowed to have made the show a bit more realistic.
I saw the indian re-enactors who tried to convince me that a few of them were real Shawnees. If they would have had the proper war paint on their faces, I may have believed them. I want them to figure it out for themselves. One of the indians was a self-appointed expert. His ego far exceeded his knowledge of my people. He refused to speak to me, even though I addressed him. I think that only one or two were wearing the proper Shawnee moccasins. Will the Battle of the Monongahela (Braddock's defeat) be any better? Or will they not permit you to fire your weapons? Can't have anyone fall down! That may offend some tourists sensibilities. Don't they realize that this was warfare?
If they did a proper re-enactment of Braddock's defeat, the ground would literally be covered with British bodies. Over six-hundred of them. We lost less than forty. I can't even imagine the scene when the scalpings began. It must have been a sickening sight.
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| alikws |
Posted - August 30 2004 : 11:30:03 AM
with michigan grand encampment the next weekend, a described as heavily scripted battle {only fire when nps people tell you}, only the british camp being interpetrive {french and indians camping in a non-public area} and no blanket trading of any kind alowed, most natives i know avoided this one...
with a battle up here in the champlain valley area, if a person is down {takes a hit} while we are pretending to scalp and rob him blind, we are talking to that person and checking their condition... and cease fire is a command that _anyone_ can give and be immediatly responded to... |
| 42ndOfficer |
Posted - August 29 2004 : 10:33:03 PM
I fell in with Rich Baker's First Virginia Regt.for this event.Not bad,all things considering.Before this however,we reenacted the events of Jumonville Glen on May 28th 2004(not on NPS property)which also went over well.Check out the B.R.P.A website for the pics. |
| lonewolf |
Posted - August 29 2004 : 10:18:02 PM
Hi guys,
I was at Ft. Necessity on Saturday. Had a good time. I was the for real Shawnee with the blue paint on his face. Lots of visitors took my pictures with their kids and girlfriends. Got to hug a lot of guys' girlfriends.
The park people wouldn't let me bring my very dull tomahawk into the park. I really wasn't planning on scalping anyone.
Any people from this board there?
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| Fitz Williams |
Posted - July 06 2004 : 11:45:32 AM
I saw the following article on Ft. Necessity
In describing plans for the commemoration, Ranger Brian Reedy had been careful to emphasize
that yesterday's demonstration was not to be a mock battle, but an event to honor the
skills and courage of those on all sides who made sacrifices in the struggle for North America.
Reedy coordinated the activities of the hundreds of re-enactors.
I guess that's the PC take on things. |
| SgtMunro |
Posted - July 04 2004 : 5:54:12 PM
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Scott Bubar asked:Sgt. Munro, what is the rationale for this? (The 'shut-down' statement from the NPS Staff Member)
Well Scott, The reason why some places do not allow you to take 'hits' is that they claim that a person could be really injured out there and no one would know it (That's a B.S. answer, since all reenactors that I know of have a 'buddy-check' system they use on the field). That is the reason why the NPS Staff Member said that they would 'shut down' the event, so that medical evaluation/evacuation could take place. As I said before, it is a B.S. answer to a non-existant problem.
Another site director, who shall remain nameless, for the last two years used as a 'no-hits' excuse the famous 'Flight 93 Defence'. That being, he claimed that when Flight 93 went down near Shanksville (PA), that the people of the town could see the faces of the passengers pressed against the windows of the aircraft as it flew overhead toward its final destination (over 20 air miles away).
What a pinhead!!! First off, if that bird was close enough to the ground for the townspeople to see the passengers, it would have never cleared Laurel Ridge (whoops! I might have given up the location of where this cat is). Secondly, before 9-11, he used the excuse of a woman having a heart attack out of the fright of seeing a reenactor fake a casualty. I just love lying A-Holes, they keep changing their stories, and the lies get more fantastic!!!!!
Then there are those directors who just do not like anything to deal with the military. These hippie throwbacks should leave their water-pipes at home, and get with the program. People, for the most part, love reality and they will not tolerate B.S.
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Fitz Williams said:The head of the Ninety Six site is a really great guy, but he likes his job, so he sticks to the rules.
He sounds like a good troop, who is just trying to stick to the rules that he did not write. There are alot of site directors who do not agree with the site rules, and have no power to change them. These are folks we should still try to support, kind of like what your artillery friend is doing.
Then of course, you have the other variety, these are the ones who take a perverse pleasure in playing 'hall monitor'. These types are best delt with by boycotting the site, and writting your local politicians. The majority of these jobs are given through favoritism, and can be removed the same way. The only way to correct their conduct is to stand strong and together on our own beliefs.
Your Most Humble Servant,
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| Scott Bubar |
Posted - July 04 2004 : 4:08:53 PM
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Originally posted by SgtMunro
... the reenactors were also repeatedly warned that if anybody tripped or stumbled to get up at once or the whole event would be 'shut down'. I heard all of the above, from every guy I knew, who was taking part. ...
Sgt. Munro, what is the rationale for this? |
| Fitz Williams |
Posted - July 04 2004 : 4:04:48 PM
This year at Ninety Six we had a cannon and crew present, but we were not allowed to fire it bacause there was no one from the NPS present who was certified on cannon. This was in spite of the fact that the man in charge of the crew is the instructor for all Civil War cannon crews in the state. The head of the Ninety Six site is a really great guy, but he likes his job, so he sticks to the rules. There is some talk about getting access to some land across the road so we can actually do something. This is what is done at Guilford Courthouse and it works very well. |
| SgtMunro |
Posted - July 04 2004 : 09:49:31 AM
Actually Fitz, under other conditions you are 100% right (Which is why the old sarge just says 'no' to NPS events). For the 250th anniverary, the reenactors were granted a special dispensation (A fact which they were reminded of, over and over), and the reenactors were also repeatedly warned that if anybody tripped or stumbled to get up at once or the whole event would be 'shut down'. I heard all of the above, from every guy I knew, who was taking part.
All in all, the 'nanny mentality' of certain NPS people did not spoil the good show put on by those intrepid souls who performed in the hot sun and humid air. Once again, I salute those reenactors who had taken part, "Bravo lads"!!!!
Your Most Humble Servant,
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| Fitz Williams |
Posted - July 04 2004 : 01:00:59 AM
So there was a tactical? I was given to understand that the event was on NPS land, which means that a tactical is not possible. How did they get around that? I would like to have been there. I know some of the SCIC from Fort Loudoun. |
| SgtMunro |
Posted - July 03 2004 : 5:40:21 PM
Hello again,
Just a quick after action report (or 'AAR' as Seamus says) on the Fort Necessity 250th Anniversary Reenactment. Outside of a few SNAFU's on event parking signs, the overall rating was good. The NPS Staff kept the reenactors in the field a little too long (90+ degrees and high humidity), before finally getting the tactical underway. That is a minor complaint, I know, but if you have ever worn those uniforms and accouterments on a hot day you would understand and sympathize with them.
Which brings me to the real stars of the event, the reenactors themselves. These men and women put on an excellent display of march and drill, musketry, and overall 18th century impressions. They were deserving of the standing ovation which they received. I recognized one of Seamus' men with the S.C. Independent Company, he was easy to pick out because during the arms drill demonstration he was the one doing everything right the first time (Good work Seamus, you taught the lad well). He was also moving like greased lightning (Something about not having to wear a knapsack...)
Okay enough of my poor attempt at humor, let me just say that it was a Grade A-1 demonstration by all of the reenactors present. It was a memorable day for my older daughter Sarah, who got to see her first reenactment and enjoyed it very much. She was also impressed with how every reenactor answered her questions in a most cheerful manner. Good work, guys and gals!!!!
Your Most Humble Servant,
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| SgtMunro |
Posted - July 03 2004 : 07:25:15 AM
You're right Christie, it is an important weekend to remember. At least for us history buffs. I am driving down to Fort Necessity today with my two daughters to enjoy the event. I am looking forward to being a spectator for a change, instead of a participant. I will be sure to look up Seamus' boys, who are portraying Virginia Militia...
Your Most Humble Servant,
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