Re: explaining...

Posted by Dana S. on October 08, 1999 at 12:52:32:

In Reply to: Re: explaining... posted by Victoria on October 08, 1999 at 10:53:50:

: Hey Y'all,

: I too feel some cognitive dissonance when I see patriotic ceremonies that seem to miss the point and pretend that there might not be some group of people that have been either left out of the picture or who might have suffered at the hands of those who chose not to examine the effects of their patriotism. Don't forget Europeans have had recent experience with patriotism that had been taken too far, as have America's First Nations and other people of color. That we (Mercans)can question what's on the 'other side' may also be why Petra is here.

: Hit weren't never about the Old Crone ner Pat anyways.

: See ya,
: V

Cognative dissonance(yes, I had to look it up) is a far cry from anti-patriotism. I have no problem loving, supporting, and defending my country,America. Where there are countries, there is patriotism. Maybe not loud, but its there. No country could survive without it. Some countries ARE, not because of their own patiotism, but because they had to borrow, for a time, that of another. Now, in addition to being patriotic, I am also PROUD to be an American. I am GRATEFUL to ALL who have given their lives or were willing to give their lives for the FREEDOM to express ones patriotism loudly, quietly, quickly, all night long, or not at all. When I sing the National Anthem or recite the Pledge of Allegiance, it is with gratefulness, pride in these Americans, and always with HOPE.

That's right. It was about good manners. Surely, the whole world appreciates good manners.

Respectfully,
Dana

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: : Hey Y'all,

: : I too feel some cognitive dissonance when I see patriotic ceremonies that seem to miss the point and pretend that there might not be some group of people that have been either left out of the picture or who might have suffered at the hands of those who chose not to examine the effects of their patriotism.  Don't forget Europeans have had recent experience with patriotism that had been taken too far, as have America's First Nations and other people of color.  That we (Mercans)can question what's on the 'other side'  may also be why Petra is here.  

: : Hit weren't never about the Old Crone ner Pat anyways.

: : See ya,
: : V  

: Cognative dissonance(yes, I had to look it up) is a far cry from anti-patriotism.  I have no problem loving, supporting, and defending my country,America.  Where there are countries, there is patriotism.  Maybe not loud, but its there. No country could survive without it.  Some countries ARE, not because of their own patiotism, but because they had to borrow, for a time, that of another.  Now, in addition to being patriotic, I am also PROUD to be an American.  I am GRATEFUL to ALL who have given their lives or were willing to give their lives for the FREEDOM to express ones patriotism loudly, quietly, quickly, all night long, or not at all.  When I sing the National Anthem or recite the Pledge of Allegiance, it is with gratefulness, pride in these Americans, and always with HOPE.

: That's right.  It was about good manners.  Surely, the whole world appreciates good manners.

: Respectfully,
: Dana  


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