Rich Blows Off Some Steam! :)

Posted by Rich on October 06, 1999 at 13:52:39:

In Reply to: Re: Could I respectfully ask... posted by MMMMarcia on October 06, 1999 at 09:31:01:

So much to say ... so very little will actually come out ...

The thread can stay ... I see no problem with it at all ... I'm not so worried about the content, but, as Dr. Mary was alerting everyone to (and we Thank You!), it was about to venture over into the realms of name-calling, I think, and belittling that which was not fully understood.

Now, I make no claims to fully understand myself ... I only know that ALL cultures have their rightful place on this planet; that anyone can form any kind of club or organization that they so choose & I don't feel it is the responsibilty of the members to necessarily be open to all; patriotism is a wonderful thing, whether it be Cheyenne Dog Soldiers fighting a rear guard action so their families can escape the Blue Coats or a bunch of ill-trained militia standing on the Green at Lexington to ward off the Red Coats; freedom means freedom ... to all ... not someone's preconceived notion of what freedom should be; I am proud that I PROTESTED the military action in Vietnam & consider myself no less patriotic than the guy who fought that action, maybe more so if that guy fought only because he thought that he had to; history is nearly always one-sided, as the teller invariably is biased in one way or another ... it is only after absorbing ALL participants' histories that a fair picture can be drawn ... Russell Means' version of history is no more valid, because of ethnicity, than distinguished scholar, Robert Utley's; no culture has a lock on human understanding; not all whites want to be other than that; members of other races do, sometimes, strive to be white ... ever hear of an "Uncle Tom" or the westernization of Asia?; the important thing is, we're ALL human!

And doesn't "The Last of the Mohicans" touch on much of this in its way?!?

There! I feel better, anyway ... NOW, everything I said could lead to further discussion, misunderstandings, hard feelings, criticism ... or, even, understanding. How about ... NOT!

Can we all meet at the local pub & have a cold one?

Please, read ...

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: So much to say ... so very little will actually come out ...

: The thread can stay ... I see no problem with it at all ... I'm not so worried about the content, but, as Dr. Mary was alerting everyone to (and we Thank You!), it was about to venture over into the realms of name-calling, I think, and belittling that which was not fully understood.

: Now, I make no claims to fully understand myself ... I only know that ALL cultures have their rightful place on this planet; that anyone can form any kind of club or organization that they so choose & I don't feel it is the responsibilty of the members to necessarily be open to all; patriotism is a wonderful thing, whether it be Cheyenne Dog Soldiers fighting a rear guard action so their families can escape the Blue Coats or a bunch of ill-trained militia standing on the Green at Lexington to ward off the Red Coats; freedom means freedom ... to all ... not someone's preconceived notion of what freedom should be; I am proud that I PROTESTED the military action in Vietnam & consider myself no less patriotic than the guy who fought that action, maybe more so if that guy fought only because he thought that he had to; history is nearly always one-sided, as the teller invariably is biased in one way or another ... it is only after absorbing ALL participants' histories that a fair picture can be drawn ... Russell Means' version of history is no more valid, because of ethnicity, than distinguished scholar, Robert Utley's; no culture has a lock on human understanding; not all whites want to be other than that; members of other races do, sometimes, strive to be white ... ever hear of an "Uncle Tom" or the westernization of Asia?; the important thing is, we're ALL human!

: And doesn't "The Last of the Mohicans" touch on much of this in its way?!?

: There! I feel better, anyway ... NOW, everything I said could lead to further discussion, misunderstandings, hard feelings, criticism ... or, even, understanding. How about ... NOT!

: Can we all meet at the local pub & have a cold one?

: Please, read ...


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