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Posted by Champ on June 14, 1999 at 01:51:45:

In Reply to: Re: Welcomes to the Board posted by Elaine on June 13, 1999 at 23:19:39:

: >>> Hi Jayne,

: Yes, this is true. Lots of people make bogus claims of Cherokee ancestry & the casino biz has been a hot motivator.

: Elaine

>Siyo Jayne & Elaine ---

This is a CNO problem, but not one of the Southern Cherokee Nation, as we own no casinos ;-)
Our only problem is getting our sovereingty back, denied to us by the Federal government because we, the Southern Cherokee, were the Mixed-blood (or Meti, as Mixed-bloods are called in Canada) faction that made up the bulk of the force led by Cherokee General Stand Watie for the Confederacy during the War Between The States (read below):

"Although the Southern Cherokee (Chief Stand Watie) signed a Cease-Hostilities Treaty on the 23rd of June 1865 with the United States (& not an unconditional-surrender treaty), neither Chief Watie nor the members of the Southern Cherokee Delegation signed the
Tri-Cornered Treaty of 19 July 1866 between the Cherokee Nation and the United States.

In the opinion of the Southern Cherokee Delegation this was an effort to protect the Sovereign Rights of the Southern Cherokee, who were, and still remain, outside the jurisdiction of the US Congress, for a more favorable ratified treaty with the Southern Cherokee Nation.....

In 1868 the Southern Cherokee and Cherokee Nation were once again on speaking terms, and a treaty was signed to merge the Southern Cherokee back into the Cherokee Nation and dissolve the Political Entity and Government of the Southern Cherokee Nation.
The US Senate however rejected the Treaty and refused to ratify it on the grounds that it gave the Cherokee Nation too much Sovereignty and Independence.....

This act of the US Senate again left the Tsalagi (Cherokee) Nation divided and the Southern Cherokee outside of the jurisdiction of the US Congress and under the terms of the 1865 Cease-Hostilities Treaty .....

The Southern Cherokee has since ceding from the protection of the United States on 09 October 1861, been, and continues to be, a Sovereign Nation......in a Cease-Fire status with the United States since 23 June 1865, the same as Korea since 1954......."

Since that time, the Southern Cherokee went *underground*, but last year the call went out from Principal Chief Gary Ridge & in May of this year at a council held at Wilson's Creek, MO, we came back *above ground*!

As you may know, when we speak of the Cherokee, we are speaking of a divided people, with four major bands representing the four directions (CNO-west / Qualla band, NC-east / Keetoowah band-north / SCN-south) & many smaller independent bands (a number of which have joined the Southern Cherokee Nation.

For more on the SCN, go to the following URL & check out the link on our homepage that says "History of the Southern Cherokee".

"Champ"
member
SCN
NW District

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: : >>> Hi Jayne,

: : Yes, this is true. Lots of people make bogus claims of Cherokee ancestry & the casino biz has been a hot motivator. 

: : Elaine

: >Siyo Jayne & Elaine ---

: This is a CNO problem, but not one of the Southern Cherokee Nation, as we own no casinos ;-)
: Our only problem is getting our sovereingty back, denied to us by the Federal government because we, the Southern Cherokee, were the Mixed-blood (or Meti, as Mixed-bloods are called in Canada) faction that made up the bulk of the force led by Cherokee General Stand Watie for the Confederacy during the War Between The States (read below):

: "Although the Southern Cherokee (Chief Stand Watie) signed a Cease-Hostilities Treaty on the 23rd of June 1865 with the United States (& not an unconditional-surrender treaty), neither Chief Watie nor the  members of the Southern Cherokee Delegation signed the  
: Tri-Cornered Treaty of 19 July 1866 between the Cherokee Nation and the United States. 

: In the opinion of the Southern Cherokee Delegation this was  an effort to protect the Sovereign Rights of the Southern Cherokee, who were, and still remain, outside the jurisdiction of the US Congress, for a more favorable ratified treaty with the Southern Cherokee Nation..... 
:   
: In 1868  the Southern Cherokee and Cherokee Nation were once again on speaking terms, and a treaty was signed to merge the Southern Cherokee back into the Cherokee Nation and dissolve the Political Entity and Government of the Southern Cherokee Nation.
: The US Senate however rejected the Treaty and refused to ratify it on the grounds that it gave the Cherokee Nation too much Sovereignty and Independence.....
:   
: This act of the US Senate again left the Tsalagi (Cherokee) Nation divided and the Southern Cherokee outside of the jurisdiction of the US Congress and under the terms of the 1865 Cease-Hostilities Treaty .....
:   
: The Southern Cherokee has since ceding from the protection of the United States on 09 October 1861,  been, and continues to be, a Sovereign Nation......in a Cease-Fire status with the United States since 23 June 1865, the same as Korea since 1954......."

: Since that time, the Southern Cherokee went *underground*, but last year the call went out from Principal Chief Gary Ridge & in May of this year at a council held at Wilson's Creek, MO, we came back *above ground*!

: As you may know, when we speak of the Cherokee, we are speaking of a divided people, with four major bands representing the four directions (CNO-west / Qualla band, NC-east / Keetoowah band-north / SCN-south) & many smaller independent bands (a number of which have joined the Southern Cherokee Nation.

: For more on the SCN, go to the following URL & check out the link on our homepage that says "History of the Southern Cherokee".

: "Champ"
: member
: SCN
: NW District


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