Re: The Grey Hair

Posted by Champ on January 20, 1999 at 12:41:10:

In Reply to: Re: The Grey Hair posted by Victoria on January 20, 1999 at 08:14:17:

. Also, as near as I can recollect, all the officers in the Indian Dept., northern and southern, F & I War and Rev. War, had lived for many years in the colonies, Also, as near as I can recollect, all the officers in the Indian Dept., northern and southern, F & I War and Rev. War, had lived for many years in the colonies, and most had close personal ties to the Indians through marriage. This includes Johnson, Croghan, McKee, Morgan, Gist, Gists's successor (can't remember his name but he was in charge of the Tsalagi so maybe you can refresh my memory), Claus, the Butler's, etc.

>>Siyo,

had to depart abrubtly for a doctors appointment, but was thinking about what you said, and wanted to add the following:

"... and most had close personal ties to the Indians through marriage. This includes Johnson, Croghan, McKee,..... the Butler's, etc...."

The Butler's did not have marriage ties to any Native peoples,
[from an extensive research collection belonging to Zig Misiak, commander & historian of the Butler's Rangers [recreated], & board member of the Pine Tree Native Center of the Six Nations, Brantford, Ontario] ;
"John Butler, founder of Butler's Rangers was born in Connecticut in 1725. John's father, Walter Butler, had been a longstanding lieutenant of the British army and close, personal friend of Sir William Johnson, Superintendant of the Northern Indians....It was perhaps this friendship between the Butler's and the Johnson's that John Butler, from an early age, was well versed in Indian languages, customs and traditions.
Johnson could not help but notice John Butler's ability in dealing with the Indians. He was especially impressed by Butler's understanding of Indian cultures and traditions. In May, 1755, Johnson invited Butler as an interpreter at the council at Mount Johnson. Throughout the Seven Years War, Butler demonstrated his skills as an interperter and a diplomat, and quickly rose to the rank of Captain in the Indian Deptartment through Johnson's nomination. Throughout the 1760's, Butler continued to work with Johnson as interpreter in councils with Indians, until Johnson's death in 1774, when he was succeeded by his son, the less-popular Guy Johnson..."

"Champ"

: Regards,
: Victoria
: (who has Tslagi ancestors like so many in this area)
:

>>I'm happy for you ;-) [seriously]...
But is there a point?

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• Re: The Grey Hair Victoria 06:51:50 1/21/99 (5)
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    • Re: The Grey Hair Rich 11:44:22 1/21/99 (2)
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: . Also, as near as I can recollect, all the officers in the Indian Dept., northern and southern,  F & I War and Rev. War, had lived for many years in the colonies, Also, as near as I can recollect, all the officers in the Indian Dept., northern and southern, F & I War and Rev. War, had lived for many years in the colonies, and most had close personal ties to the Indians through marriage. This includes Johnson, Croghan, McKee, Morgan, Gist, Gists's successor (can't remember his name but he was in charge of the Tsalagi so maybe you can refresh my memory), Claus, the Butler's, etc.

: >>Siyo,

: had to depart abrubtly for a doctors appointment, but was thinking about what you said, and wanted to add the following:

: "... and most had close personal ties to the Indians through marriage. This includes Johnson, Croghan, McKee,.....  the Butler's, etc...."

: The Butler's did not have marriage ties to any Native peoples,
: [from an extensive research collection belonging to Zig Misiak, commander & historian of the Butler's Rangers [recreated], & board member of the Pine Tree Native Center of the Six Nations, Brantford, Ontario] ;
: "John Butler, founder of Butler's Rangers was born in Connecticut in 1725. John's father, Walter Butler, had been a longstanding lieutenant of the British army and close, personal friend of Sir William Johnson, Superintendant of the Northern Indians....It was perhaps this friendship between the Butler's and  the Johnson's that John Butler, from an early age, was well versed in Indian languages, customs and traditions.
: Johnson could not help but notice John Butler's ability in dealing with the Indians. He was especially impressed by Butler's understanding of Indian cultures and traditions. In May, 1755, Johnson invited Butler as an interpreter at the council at Mount Johnson. Throughout the Seven Years War, Butler demonstrated his skills as an interperter and a diplomat, and quickly rose to the rank of Captain in the Indian Deptartment through Johnson's nomination. Throughout the 1760's, Butler continued to work with Johnson as interpreter in councils with Indians, until Johnson's death in 1774, when he was succeeded by his son, the less-popular Guy Johnson..."

: "Champ"

: : Regards,
: : Victoria 
: : (who has Tslagi ancestors like so many in this area)   
: :  

: >>I'm happy for you ;-) [seriously]...
: But is there a point?


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