Re: The Grey Hair

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Posted by Elaine on January 19, 1999 at 08:21:59:

In Reply to: Re: The Grey Hair posted by Victoria on January 19, 1999 at 07:55:51:

: Hey Pat,

: I don't think that Mann added any symbolism, but I do think he played with time and characters. Very typical of films, and I think he was throwing out another tidbit to pique the interest of those who might be familiar with the history of the causes and precursor events of the F & I War. It would have been missed by most, especially those whose attentions are fixated elsewhere (like Mmmmarcia). The Huron were subjugated by the Mohawk long before Magua would have been alive, don't forget. The other interesting thing to note is that Hendrick was Johnson's Mohawk mentor, and it was his words that Ongawascone (sp.) was quoting in the movie.

: Sticking to my guns,
: Victoria

: (Glad someone found this interesting. Was ready to bank the History Fire.)

Hi Victoria,

I agree with you (especially about MMMarcia's fixation distraction). Mann did play with time & characters, though I'm not sure if it was directed at those with a sense of history or if the changes simply provided effects he sought. He certainly was familiar with F & I WAR players so I tend to think the former was at least partially the case.

Earlier Mohawk subjugation ... good point. Hendrick, by the way, (there are too few to fight, too many to die), who was killed in 1755 at The Battle Of Lake George was the son of a Mohawk mother and a Mohican father. {Maybe this explains Mary's assertion that Hawkeye calls him "Uncle Wiscone"?!!}

Victoria, another log on the History Fire please.

Elaine

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Re: The Grey Hair MMMMarcia 08:56:04 1/19/99 (24)
- Re: History and its place Victoria 12:27:34 1/20/99 (1)
  - Re: History and its place & A Mystery Solved MMMMarcia 13:42:01 1/20/99 (0)
- Re: The Grey Hair Elaine 09:55:09 1/19/99 (21)
  - Re: The Grey Hair MMMMarcia 11:25:52 1/19/99 (20)
    - Re: The Grey Hair Pat 15:55:17 1/19/99 (19)
      - Re: The Grey Hair MMMMarcia 16:28:32 1/19/99 (0)
      - PS Pat 16:06:16 1/19/99 (17)
        
        Re: PS Elaine 19:05:34 1/19/99 (16)
        
        Re: PS ... Military Matters Rich 03:12:57 1/20/99 (13)
        
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: : Hey Pat,

: : I don't think that Mann added any symbolism, but I do think he played with time and characters. Very typical of films, and I think he was throwing out another tidbit to pique the interest of those who might be familiar with the history of the causes and precursor events of the F & I War. It would have been missed by most, especially those whose attentions are fixated elsewhere (like Mmmmarcia). The Huron were subjugated by the Mohawk long before Magua would have been alive, don't forget. The other interesting thing to note is that Hendrick was Johnson's Mohawk mentor, and it was his words that Ongawascone (sp.) was quoting in the movie.

: : Sticking to my guns,
: : Victoria

: : (Glad someone found this interesting. Was ready to bank the History Fire.)

:
: Hi Victoria,

: I agree with you (especially about MMMarcia's fixation distraction). Mann did play with time & characters, though I'm not sure if it was directed at those with a sense of history or if the changes simply provided effects he sought. He certainly was familiar with F & I WAR players so I tend to think the former was at least partially the case.

: Earlier Mohawk subjugation ... good point. Hendrick, by the way, (there are too few to fight, too many to die), who was killed in 1755 at The Battle Of Lake George was the son of a Mohawk mother and a Mohican father. {Maybe this explains Mary's assertion that Hawkeye calls him "Uncle Wiscone"?!!}

: Victoria, another log on the History Fire please.

: Elaine

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