Re: The Grey Hair

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Posted by Pat on January 18, 1999 at 14:46:54:

In Reply to: Re: The Grey Hair posted by Victoria on January 15, 1999 at 07:36:17:

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: : Could it have been, Johnson?

: Hey Sam,

: I'm thinking that it was.

: Regards,
: Victoria

Hi Victoria,
This is an interesting discussion and I am enjoying it; however, I still disagree. While Cooper is awash with symbolism, Mann's movie does not add additional symbolism. Granted he tosses in Joseph Brant's name when Brant was only a child and he rewrote Cooper's plot (removing symbolism in the process). Making money is the bottom line for films. Movies must appeal to a wide audience - if a film is too esoteric, many of the viewers will be frustrated and dissatisfied and not recommend the movie to others (word of mouth sells a lot of tickets).
Also, I think Magua's vendetta was too personal to be aimed at a composite figure. Sir William Johnson was interesting and colorful - there are some good books about him available at amazon.com. He certainly makes an interesting topic for continued discussion. Glad you brought him up.
Pat

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: : : Could it have been, Johnson?

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: Hi Victoria,
: This is an interesting discussion and I am enjoying it;  however, I still disagree.  While Cooper is awash with symbolism, Mann's movie does not add additional symbolism.  Granted he tosses in Joseph Brant's name when Brant was only a child and he rewrote Cooper's plot (removing symbolism in the process).   Making money is the bottom line for films.  Movies must appeal to a wide audience - if a film is too esoteric, many of the viewers will be frustrated and dissatisfied and not recommend the movie to others (word of mouth sells a lot of tickets).
: Also, I think Magua's vendetta was too personal to be aimed at a composite figure.  Sir William Johnson was interesting and colorful - there are some good books about him available at amazon.com.  He certainly makes an interesting topic for continued discussion.  Glad you brought him up.
: Pat



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