Re: War Clubs versus ... Nut Crackers????

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: : >>I'm glad you agree, Champ...though some of the battles you mention were fought after the arrival of the (dreaded) White Man, and Mr. Means might feel they are examples of Europeans corrupting the un-warlike Indians.  But I have read many accounts of wars between tribes and cultures that exceeded simply "counting coup" and don't believe that the American Indian never needed a warclub for any purpose until the arrival of the whites. You would know better than I, but isn't this pretty much accepted as truth by most?

: >>You are right again, isnt "white washing" of the American Indians warrior heritage [which indeed was more than "counting
: coup"] simply falling into that age old "Noble Savage" trap of yore?

: : >>This is very interesting.  I have Scottish ancestors on my mother's side, as well, and wish I knew more about that part of my heritage.  (Did you like Braveheart?)

: >>HA! Just plopped in "Braveheart" today into the ol' vcr! 
: You bet I love it, I'm actually though, a bigger fan of "Rob Roy"; for one, I'm more into the whole Jacobite era [Bonnie Prince Charlie & all] & I just love a good rogue [you & "Mr. Girty" know that ;-) ]...
: Has anyone seen "Chasing the Deer"? That is another Jacobite film I've been wishing to see...

: : : As I said in an earlier post, I for one am proud of BOTH my Cherokee & Celtic warrior heritage, and will never "water it down" to suit a PC driven world. 

: : >>Good for you!  While I strongly believe in trying to be sensitive to the feelings of others, it can certainly be carried to excess, can't it?  We should each be proud of our roots, warts and all, as it is that very heritage which makes us who we are today.  I say celebrate the past, revel in the present, and look forward to the future!  That's Life!

: : MMMMarcia

: >>YES! Exactly, so well said....

: "Champ"


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