Re: Simon Girty & the Dark and Bloody Ground

Posted by Victoria on January 23, 1999 at 18:18:20:

In Reply to: Simon Girty & the Dark and Bloody Ground posted by Champ on January 23, 1999 at 03:37:01:

: Siyo!

: The following excerpts are taken from the book:
: "The Frontier Riflemen" by Richard B. LaCrosse, Jr.

: "Champ"
: -------------------------
: October 04, 1779 - Licking River, Kentucky
: White renegade, traitor and ex-longhunter, Simon Girty and his Shawnee warriors, ambush and destroy frontier riflemen on the Ohio River.
: American losses: fifty-seven killed, wounded or captured. Thirteen escape.

: June 04-05, 1782 - Sandusky, Ohio
: Colonel William Crawford leads a force of mounted backwoodsmen from Mingo Bottom, PA, 150 miles to Sandusky, OH, where he is attacked by 100 of Butler's Rangers under Captain William Caldwell, and 200 Indians under Captain Pipe and Wingenund of the Delaware, Zhaus-sho-toh of the Wyandots [Huron], and the white renegades Simon Girty, Alexander McKee and Matthew Elliot.

>>Between these two dates lies Lochrey's Defeat (August 24, 1781). A number of men had been recruited from Westmoreland County, PA under Archibald Lochrey, including my father's grandmother's grandfather named Isaac Anderson, in response to G.R. Clark's call for men to try and take Detroit. They travelled down the Ohio River and got as far as a small creek, now known as Lochrey's Creek, near the mouth of the Miami River when they were attacked by Brant and one of the Girty's. Eckert has it as Simon, I think it was George. Over forty men were killed. There are several versions of this. Some say they were killed in revenge for Brodhead's expedition. Isaac Anderson was the Lt. and put in charge of the survivors. He was a mason and may have been spared by Brant because of this. This was Brant's first major command, and he and Simon got into a vicious fight afterward. Anderson was taken through various locations, ran the gauntlet, was taken to Detroit, and then to Montreal where he escaped from prison. He made his way back to PA, married the daughter of another captive (taken by the Seneca out of Ft. Niagara who left a signed letter and a war club), and moved to Cincinnati and ran the first tavern there. Living in Cinti was Phillip Dick who was on the relief expedition to Dunlop's Station. The families eventually intermarried. (See McBride's Pioneer Biographies, and Kelsay's bio on Brant, and Wither's Chronicles of Border Warfare)

Victoria
(P.S. Them Kentucky people are always trouble)

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: : Siyo!

: 
: : The following excerpts are taken from the book:
: : "The Frontier Riflemen" by Richard B. LaCrosse, Jr.

: : "Champ"
: : -------------------------
: : October 04, 1779 - Licking River, Kentucky
: : White renegade, traitor and ex-longhunter, Simon Girty and his Shawnee warriors, ambush and destroy frontier riflemen on the Ohio River.
: : American losses: fifty-seven killed, wounded or captured. Thirteen escape.

: : June 04-05, 1782 - Sandusky, Ohio
: : Colonel William Crawford leads a force of mounted backwoodsmen from Mingo Bottom, PA, 150 miles to Sandusky, OH, where he is attacked by 100 of Butler's Rangers under Captain William Caldwell, and 200 Indians under Captain Pipe and Wingenund of the Delaware, Zhaus-sho-toh of the Wyandots [Huron], and the white renegades Simon Girty, Alexander McKee and Matthew Elliot. 

: >>Between these two dates lies Lochrey's Defeat (August 24, 1781). A number of men had been recruited from Westmoreland County, PA under Archibald Lochrey, including my father's grandmother's grandfather named Isaac Anderson, in response to G.R. Clark's call for men to try and take Detroit.  They travelled down the Ohio River and got as far as a small creek, now known as Lochrey's Creek, near the mouth of the Miami River when they were attacked by Brant and  one of the Girty's.  Eckert has it as Simon, I think it was George.  Over forty men were killed.  There are several versions of this.  Some say they were killed in revenge for Brodhead's expedition.  Isaac Anderson was the Lt. and put in charge of the survivors.  He was a mason and may have been spared by Brant because of this.  This was Brant's first major command, and he and Simon got into a vicious fight afterward.  Anderson was taken through various locations, ran the gauntlet, was taken to Detroit, and then to Montreal where he escaped from prison.  He made his way back to PA, married the daughter of another captive (taken by the Seneca out of Ft. Niagara who left a signed letter and a war club), and moved to Cincinnati and ran the first tavern there.  Living in Cinti was Phillip Dick who was on the relief expedition to Dunlop's Station.  The families eventually intermarried.  (See McBride's Pioneer Biographies, and Kelsay's bio on Brant, and Wither's Chronicles of Border Warfare)

: Victoria
: (P.S. Them Kentucky people are always trouble)



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