Posted by Kate on March 04, 2001 at 06:17:06:
In Reply to: Re: Am I Just 'Nitpicking'? ... The Scene At Cameron's Cabin II posted by Rich on March 04, 2001 at 05:05:19:
: : Please, someone just tell me - it wouldn't happen like that - or I'm just nitpicking!!
: : Kate.
: But, of COURSE you are, Miss Katie! And you do it SO well ... :)
: What do I think?
: Well ... To me that scene is one of the very best in the movie, ESPECIALLY when Hawkeye chastises Cora! They were in a hurry, in a life or death situation, there was nothing they could do about having 3 Englishmen with them, they HAD to stop & investigate - these were their friends, after all - yet, these considerations to better judgment aside, actually pausing to bury them would have been a dead giveaway that they were foe, not friends ... not to mention Bill's point about time ...
: It's, in my opinion, a classicly beautiful scene, from the setting, the characters' stances, the lighting, to the eerie sound, to Uncas' tender touch of Alexandria, to Chingachgook's forcefulness, to Hawkeye's lump (in his throat!), to Cora's backing away ...
: I DO love this film!
: Good thread started here, Katie!
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Hey Rich,
I DO do it so well, DON'T I??!! But - you should see me when I REALLY get into my stride!! Boy, I can nitpick like you wouldn't BELIEVE!!! ;o)
Well, ya' know, I'm in total agreement re: this scene. I think the setting and the lighting is beautiful and it is well acted and done sooo sensitively... and right from the beginning I understood and I agree that it would have been totally foolhardy to stop and bury their friends.
It's just the way Hawkeye almost spits at Cora 'they are not strangers... and they stay as they lay'. I can't fault HOW he delivers that line... I think it's a very sensitive part of that scene - it's WHY - the content of that line. Why should he be angry with Cora???
Well, 'The Burial Ground' scene explains - 'anyone looking for our trail would see it as a sign we passed that way'. Fair enough. But anyone with good eyesight would also see more mocassin prints, girls' shoe prints, military boot prints, etc., and Chingachgook's wonderful outline of a mocassin print! And that's what REALLY gets me!!! Chingachgook, this 'child of the woods' native who has been hunting and tracking and... from birth, he who should KNOW BETTER, draws a line around a mocassin print - and then Hawkeye gets mad at Cora because she hasn't the wit to understand that they can't bury the dead because that would alert a Huron war party to the fact they've been there??!!
Yes, I think probably the girls have been scared witless by their first major encounter with 'the red men', (though Cora very clearly recovers quickly), they aren't thinking very clearly so perhaps Cora WOULDN'T be able to reason it out as 'man, we made enough of a disturbance while we were AT the cabin, don't tell me the Huron's won't know we were there!' But as the viewer, WE can understand that what Hawkeye is saying is a lot of hocus!! I just wish MM had used a different argument for that little 'interplay' between Cora and Hawkeye. Every time Hawkeye delivers that line, I find myself getting annoyed and answering him 'won't know you were THERE???? You obviously came up on the Hudson on a Banana Boat, man!! And poor Ching and his father before him, wasted years of trainin' on ye's!!!'
:I DO love this film!
Yep!! SO DO I!!!
Kate.