A Dispute!

Posted by Elaine on November 27, 2000 at 18:19:44:

In Reply to: Re: Question about Patriot and Soldier #2 posted by Kate on November 27, 2000 at 14:26:48:

: : : Hello everybody, and apologies if this has already been discussed. I diligently searched the archives and was unable to find anything to clear this up any for me!

: : : We rented The Patriot and did not see our Eric Hurley, Soldier #2, can anyone tell me whether he made the final cut and if possible, what scene I might look for him in?

: : : Also belated congrats for the wedding celebrations of Eric and Sharon, the web-invite was wonderful and looks like it was a joyous day!

: : : Claudia

: : *****

: : Nope .... no Soldier #2 to scout out. Besides Mark Baker's participation, The Patriot also includes the presence of our own "Colonial Joe" Hinson.

: : Speaking of cute little war flicks, has anyone seen Russell Crowe's performance in The Gladiator? Great film! Michael Mann was, at one point, planning a film on the life of Julius Ceasar, in which Russell Crowe was to portray the lead.

: : E

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: Hi Elaine,

: Funny you should ask that. I just sat and watched it for the first time last night and to be honest, I was SO disturbed by the whole thing, I was ready to take the DVD back 15 minutes into the film. But I decided that, as I had spent good money taking it out, I was going to darn well watch the whole thing, plus the extra disk covering the making of the film!! :o( Actually, I kept thinking 'it MUST get easier'.

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: It never did. I'm not saying that that wasn't how life was back then, that life didn't seem to be worth much - just that I found it REALLY HARD to watch. I found the *making of the film* fascinating, Russell Crowe was certainly fantastic, the storyline was soooo poignant, and certainly the film was very well put together, but - nope, don't think I could watch it again.

: Still affected by it,
: Kate.

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Hiya, Kate -

I think I can understand that. Its subject is disturbing & the film's depiction of the times is realistic, graphic, & effective.
Yeah ... it can be very disturbing. Life WAS worth very little to the mobs of Rome, the people WERE easily appeased & controlled with 'bread & circus' - This was post-Pax Romana & the film is a good look at the decline of the Roman Empire. (There is, of course, a lesson for the modern world ... so, I think it's good that it is disturbing.)

Okay, Kate - it's historical fiction, but with a strong factual plot base. Connection to Scotland? When Marcus Aurelius was a child, he caught the unfortunate *eye* of Emperor Hadrian. We know how Hadrian feared the highland Picts! Ever wonder how terrifying it must have been for a Roman Soldier to be posted as sentry along that wall? Now, THAT was a frontier!

Haven't seen the DVD yet - I look forward to it, though, as I've heard it includes a lot of edited scenes.

Elaine

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• Re: A Dispute! Diana S. 19:23:43 11/27/2000 (0)
• Re: A Dispute! Kate 19:15:35 11/27/2000 (1)
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: : : : Hello everybody, and apologies if this has already been discussed. I diligently searched the archives and was unable to find anything to clear this up any for me!

: : : : We rented The Patriot and did not see our Eric Hurley, Soldier #2, can anyone tell me whether he made the final cut and if possible, what scene I might look for him in?

: : : : Also belated congrats for the wedding celebrations of Eric and Sharon, the web-invite was wonderful and looks like it was a joyous day!

: : : : Claudia

: : : *****

: : : Nope .... no Soldier #2 to scout out. Besides Mark Baker's participation, The Patriot also includes the presence of our own "Colonial Joe" Hinson.

: : : Speaking of cute little war flicks, has anyone seen Russell Crowe's performance in The Gladiator? Great film! Michael Mann was, at one point, planning a film on the life of Julius Ceasar, in which Russell Crowe was to portray the lead. 

: : : E

: : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

: : Hi Elaine,

: : Funny you should ask that.  I just sat and watched it for the first time last night and to be honest, I was SO disturbed by the whole thing, I was ready to take the DVD back 15 minutes into the film.  But I decided that, as I had spent good money taking it out, I was going to darn well watch the whole thing, plus the extra disk covering the making of the film!! :o(  Actually, I kept thinking 'it MUST get easier'.   

: : 
: : It never did. I'm not saying that that wasn't how life was back then, that life didn't seem to be worth much - just that I found it REALLY HARD to watch.  I found the *making of the film* fascinating, Russell Crowe was certainly fantastic, the storyline was soooo poignant, and certainly the film was very well put together, but - nope, don't think I could watch it again. 

: : Still affected by it,
: : Kate.

: ****
: Hiya, Kate -

: I think I can understand that. Its subject is disturbing & the film's depiction of the times is realistic, graphic, & effective.
: Yeah ... it can be very disturbing. Life WAS worth very little to the mobs of Rome, the people WERE easily appeased & controlled with 'bread & circus' - This was post-Pax Romana & the film is a good look at the decline of the Roman Empire. (There is, of course, a lesson for the modern world ... so, I think it's good that it is disturbing.)

: Okay, Kate - it's historical fiction, but with a strong factual plot base. Connection to Scotland? When Marcus Aurelius was a child, he caught the unfortunate *eye* of Emperor Hadrian. We know how Hadrian feared the highland Picts! Ever wonder how terrifying it must have been for a Roman Soldier to be posted as sentry along that wall? Now, THAT was a frontier!

: Haven't seen the DVD yet - I look forward to it, though, as I've heard it includes a lot of edited scenes. 

: Elaine


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