Re: Casting Stones

Posted by Victoria on July 28, 2000 at 18:11:17:

In Reply to: Re: Casting Stones posted by Gayle on July 28, 2000 at 16:53:30:

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: : I have often wondered, should the French and the English pay reparations and apologize to the Indians?

: : Regards,
: : Victoria

: No more than the American settlers and subsequent American government. Eradication of the Indians was a joint effort.

: Gayle

America has made some attempts, however badly carried out and begrudged. The French and the English, however, swore on a stack of bibles that they were friends, more than friends, their fathers, and that they would take care to always be the friends and benefactors if they would fight on their side during the French and Indian War. Most Indians, including the Iroquois League, were staunchly neutral, and only succumbed after intense lobbying and pressure tactics and even economic blackmail. Each country, moreover, made great efforts to use religious leaders to sway them and convince the Indians of the moral and religious rightness of their side. Then, at the treaty at the end of the F&I War, the French gave the Indians over to the British, along with the land, as having "belonged" to them, after having assured the Indians up until that point that they were in no way the subjects of France. Once convinced that they should look to the British as their new "fathers", some Indians were convinced to fight against the Americans, causing great animosity and subsequent retaliation by the Americans who made no distinction between those that fought for or against the American cause. Both the French and the British viewed themselves as knowledgeable, civilized, and with a set of laws to illustrate their cultural superiority. Therefore, it can be said, they knew what they were doing, and should be held accountable in some way for the position their put their friends, "brothers", and allies in.

Victoria

Follow Ups:

• Re: Casting Stones Bill R 19:15:24 7/28/2000 (12)
  • Re: Casting Stones Elaine 22:28:17 7/28/2000 (9)
    • Re: Casting Stones Victoria 10:10:57 7/29/2000 (8)
      • Re: Casting Stones Adele 13:28:16 7/29/2000 (6)
        • Some more of Billy's fractured history Bill R 14:17:32 7/29/2000 (3)
          • Re: Some more of Billy's fractured history Adele 16:49:30 7/29/2000 (2)
            • Re: Some more of Billy's fractured history Kate 19:17:08 7/29/2000 (0)
            • Re: Some more of Billy's fractured history Bill R 16:57:44 7/29/2000 (0)
        • Re: Casting Stones duck Adele Bill R 14:14:32 7/29/2000 (1)
          • Re: Casting Stones duck Adele Adele 16:52:26 7/29/2000 (0)
      • Re: Casting Stones Bill R 10:35:25 7/29/2000 (0)
  • Re: Casting Stones Kathy S 21:52:47 7/28/2000 (1)
    • Re: Casting Stones Bill R 08:19:51 7/29/2000 (0)

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: : : I have often wondered, should the French and the English pay reparations and apologize to the Indians?

: : : Regards,
: : : Victoria

: : No more than the American settlers and subsequent American government.  Eradication of the Indians was a joint effort.

: : Gayle

: America has made some attempts, however badly carried out and begrudged.  The French and the English, however, swore on a stack of bibles that they were friends, more than friends, their fathers, and that they would take care to always be the friends and benefactors if they would fight on their side during the French and Indian War.  Most Indians, including the Iroquois League, were staunchly neutral, and only succumbed after intense lobbying and pressure tactics and even economic blackmail. Each country, moreover, made great efforts to use religious leaders to sway them and convince the Indians of the moral and religious rightness of their side. Then, at the treaty at the end of the F&I War, the French gave the Indians over to the British, along with the land, as having "belonged" to them, after having assured the Indians up until that point that they were in no way the subjects of France.  Once convinced that they should look to the British as their new "fathers", some Indians were convinced to fight against the Americans, causing great animosity and subsequent retaliation by the Americans who made no distinction between those that fought for or against the American cause.  Both the French and the British viewed themselves as knowledgeable, civilized, and with a set of laws to illustrate their cultural superiority.  Therefore, it can be said, they knew what they were doing, and should be held accountable in some way for the position their put their friends, "brothers", and allies in.

: Victoria 


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