Posted by Sarah on September 01, 1998 at 08:46:13:
In Reply to: Re: In defense of the sound posted by Jo on August 31, 1998 at 23:57:56:
: : The "sound" and the way the words come through seem to be two different things. The sound in LOTM is amazing. And the combination of the sound and the score are perfection. But, I still have a bit of a problem with the fact that several lines are hard to decipher, especially the first time watching. I've said before that the actors carried me through, even when I didn't understand some of the lines. I've come to believe it's just that the folks who do the final editting have heard all the lines umteen times and can't relate to the fact that it's all new to the audience. Now, for me personally, it was a pleasure to go back and watch this movie over and over. But, there are people who are not as enamored as all of us.( yeah, it's hard to believe, but I've met a couple). Most people probably saw LOTM once, and enjoyed it. I have to wonder if they were able to appreciate it fully, if they missed some of the important lines.
: : But of course, this is a problem with lots of movies in recent years, so I guess we all have to live with it.
: : Kathy S
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: HI! Kathy S,
: I might have a few comments here that can shed a little light on your discussion...The effect of not being able to understand everything that was heard made them not particularily able to figure out all of the nooks and crannies of the movie;
: Jo
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Kathy and Jo,
I agree that the sound is very much different from the dialogue. I don't think there is anyone who did not have problems with the dialogue. I only got one of John Cameron's lines by listening to the "movie" on the audio tape, it was so hard to distinguish on the video. It's a tough trade-off -- I think there had to be give and take, as I think Marcia said, in sacrificing either the sound or the dialogue. There might have been a couple of places where the "sound" could have been diminished to amplify the dialogue, such as at the Cameron's house where the night noises are not as important.
And you made a good point that the editors probably knew it too well to realize others might miss it. This may be the reason why some of the editing bloopers occured (such as the guy in the blue cap). In some ways the editing was fabulous, but in other ways they weren't -- inconsistency may have cost the movie some of its otherwise deserved Oscars.
So, we all just have to suffer through watching it again and again and again to get it all! Darn.
Cheers,
Sarah