Re: A "Strong" Alice?

Posted by JC on August 07, 1998 at 18:51:03:

In Reply to: Re: A posted by Elaine on August 07, 1998 at 15:41:01:

Elaine,

I did not in any way take Rich's post as offensive or belittling, AND I fully understand that he was merely expressing his thoughts about the Alice characterization.

That was my only purpose as well. I know it's hard to pick up on the tone of a conversation in this format- that's why I use lots of these- !!!!!!!!!!!

I also have to clear up that, like Katherine, I am not familiar with the Leatherstocking Tales (although I am reading Cooper's LOTM now). As a person who only viewed the movie without any knowledge of it being based on a literary work, let alone some historical fact, I formed my own opinions about what each character represented to me.

You obviously are very knowledgable about Copper's books and well educated in the history department. I simply am coming from the direction of what is in my heart.

Do you not believe that when an artist creates something he allows his audience, viewer, whatever the case may be , to draw from it their own meaning? A song, a painting, a book, a film. I believe that Mann saw the original LOTM film(1936?)as a little boy and altered it in his mind- making his 92 adaptation into his vision of how he thought it should be. Mann himself changed Cooper's story- the story that was already written, the film that had already been made.

There are many Magua lovers on the board. Some see Magua not as the main antagonist, but as just another player in a series of tragic events- seeking revenge for the death of his children and the loss of his wife to another man. They feel he has been wrongfully characterized as the bad guy. Is this changing the story that is already written, or just looking at something in a different way?

I have considered everything that you have said. Can't my feelings, observations, opinions, and whatnot about the film simply be based on my interpretations without having to be backed up with evidence that Mann has or hasn't given us? If this were a scientific theory or a mathematical equation I would still question it if I believed with all of my being that it was not as it appeared.

Peace? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JC

Follow Ups:

• Re: A Parley? Elaine 22:55:23 8/07/98 (5)
  • Re: A Parley? JC 11:19:56 8/08/98 (4)
    • Re: A Parley? Katherine 07:43:23 8/10/98 (1)
      • Re: A Parley? JC 09:30:18 8/10/98 (0)
    • Re: A TRanslation Please Vita 11:27:13 8/08/98 (1)
      • Re: A TRanslation Please JC 11:41:06 8/08/98 (0)

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: Elaine,

: I did not in any way take Rich's post as offensive or belittling, AND I fully understand that he was merely expressing his thoughts about the Alice characterization.

: That was my only purpose as well.  I know it's hard to pick up on the tone of a conversation in this format- that's why I use lots of these- !!!!!!!!!!!

: I also have to clear up that, like Katherine, I am not familiar with the Leatherstocking Tales (although I am reading Cooper's LOTM now). As a person who only viewed the movie without any knowledge of it being based on a literary work, let alone some historical fact, I formed my own opinions about what each character represented to me.

: You obviously are very knowledgable about Copper's books and well educated in the history department.  I simply am coming from the direction of what is in my heart.

: Do you not believe that when an artist creates something he allows his audience, viewer, whatever the case may be , to draw from it their own meaning? A song, a painting, a book, a film.  I believe that Mann saw the original LOTM film(1936?)as a little boy and altered it in his mind- making his 92 adaptation into his vision of how he thought it should be.  Mann himself changed Cooper's story- the story that was already written, the film that had already been made. 

: There are many Magua lovers on the board.  Some see Magua not as the main antagonist, but as just another player in a series of tragic events- seeking revenge for the death of his children and the loss of his wife to another man. They feel he has been wrongfully characterized as the bad guy. Is this changing the story that is already written, or just looking at something in a different way?  

: I have considered everything that you have said.  Can't my feelings, observations, opinions, and whatnot about the film simply be based on my interpretations without having to be backed up with evidence that Mann has or hasn't given us?  If this were a scientific theory or a mathematical equation I would still question it if I believed with all of my being that it was not as it appeared.  

: Peace? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

: JC

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