Re: A "Strong" Alice

Posted by Katherine on August 07, 1998 at 14:58:11:

In Reply to: Re: A posted by JC on August 07, 1998 at 13:51:41:

: Rich,

: Yes, a "strong" Alice is possible. Not everything is black and white- ie: Cora is strong, therefore Alice must be weak, Chingachgook is the hero, Magua is the bad guy.

: Does "innocent school girl, have you seen the Red Man?, what an adventure!" translate into weakness? Cora had seen the face of war before, and because of that she was able to "handle" herself and act accordingly- Alice is not wise to this world and does not know what to make of it all, she IS terrified because this is her first experience with anything of the kind. I am not hard-pressed to find strength in anyone in this movie, especially Alice, they are all strong powerful characters in their own individual ways.

: In my opinion, going with Magua would have been suicide for Alice Munro, death of her spirit. She was able to rise above her fear, to be at peace with herself for one brief moment, and followed what was in her heart. Her spirit now soars.

: This is art, it is open for interpretation by all. There is no RIGHT answer. And, you may think I'm a foo-foo from out in left field and that's fine!

: She-who-dreams-a-little-dream
: JC

So I'm not the only one who thinks in this way. I really like the way you state your points JC!

Okay I'll explain my stand. Now that I have been more introduced to the Leatherstocking Tales I do understand where you Marcia and Rich and others are coming from. I agree if you really see Alice in the movie as the weak character in Cooper's book okay I can see how that can be seen in the movie. Jodhi did do a great job in portraying Mann's Alice character taken from what she was like in the book.

But I still believe there was room for us out here who may not be as familiar with the weak character in Cooper's book to see Alice as someone with inner-strength. I believe there was enough room in the movie for us others to see the inner-strength in Alice.

I saw the movie before I was even introduced to the book so what I interpreted and saw about Alice was entirely from what I saw in the film. When I saw the film for the first time I immediately saw Alice as quiet, observant but also someone with inner-strength. What drew me to LOTM in the first place were the characters of Strong-Silent type Uncas and what I perceived to be an Alice with inner-strength. To see Alice with inner-strength is to identify with her. For me to think of Alice in any another way would make LOTM lose some of it's magic for me.

maybe you might also think of me as a foo-foo in left field as well but that's fine

Katherine
She-Who-Stands-By-This-Claim

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• Re: A "Strong" Alice JC 15:43:54 8/07/98 (3)
  • Re: A "Strong" Alice Rich 16:12:13 8/07/98 (1)
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: : Rich, 

: : Yes, a "strong" Alice is possible.  Not everything is black and white- ie: Cora is strong, therefore Alice must be weak, Chingachgook is the hero, Magua is the bad guy.  

: : Does "innocent school girl, have you seen the Red Man?, what an adventure!" translate into weakness?  Cora had seen the face of war before, and because of that she was able to "handle" herself and act accordingly- Alice is not wise to this world and does not know what to make of it all, she IS terrified because this is her first experience with anything of the kind.  I am not hard-pressed to find strength in anyone in this movie, especially Alice, they are all strong powerful characters in their own individual ways.  

: : In my opinion, going with Magua would have been suicide for Alice Munro, death of her spirit.  She was able to rise above her fear, to be at peace with herself for one brief moment, and followed what was in her heart.  Her spirit now soars. 

: : This is art, it is open for interpretation by all.  There is no RIGHT answer.  And, you may think I'm a foo-foo from out in left field and that's fine!

: : She-who-dreams-a-little-dream
: : JC

: So I'm not the only one who thinks in this way. I really like the way you state your points JC!

: Okay I'll explain my stand.  Now that I have been more introduced to the Leatherstocking Tales I do understand where you Marcia and Rich and others are coming from.  I agree if you really see Alice in the movie as the weak character in Cooper's book okay I can see how that can be seen in the movie. Jodhi did do a great job in portraying Mann's Alice character taken from what she was like in the book. 

: But I still believe there was room for us out here who may not be as familiar with the weak character in Cooper's book to see Alice as someone with inner-strength.  I believe there was enough room in the movie for us others to see the inner-strength in Alice.  

: I saw the movie before I was even introduced to the book so what I interpreted and saw about Alice was entirely from what I saw in the film.  When I saw the film for the first time I immediately saw Alice as quiet, observant but also someone with inner-strength.  What drew me to LOTM in the first place were the characters of Strong-Silent type Uncas and what I perceived to be an Alice with inner-strength. To see Alice with inner-strength is to identify with her. For me to think of Alice in any another way would make LOTM lose some of it's magic for me.

: maybe you might also think of me as a foo-foo in left field as well but that's fine

: Katherine 
: She-Who-Stands-By-This-Claim


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