Re: Both Uncas and Alice given the short end of the stick

Posted by ann on August 03, 1998 at 12:09:37:

In Reply to: Re: Both Uncas and Alice given the short end of the stick posted by Ayesha on August 03, 1998 at 10:36:54:

: : : : : Sarah's comment in her "why we can't watch" post below about Uncas' look at Alice in his final scene, brought to mind another thought I've had about the massacre scene.

: : : : : Why didn't Michael Mann have Uncas rather than Chingachgook(Yeah!..believe I spelled it correctly:o) help Alice escape from the massacre??...it would have been oh so much more romantic if he had.....he seems to deliberately keep the focus off the relationship between the younger couple.

: : : : : The hopeless romantic.....ann

: : : : Yes I am in total agreement. I just bought the LOTM (unfortunately only the pan and scan version but I will get the other version as well) Anyways I watched the massacre scene again and I thought also it be so heroic and romantic for Uncas to rush over and save Alice as Hawkeye went and saved Cora. A lot of times it seemed the script called for Uncas to hold back behind Hawkeye and behind Chingachgook. It has bothered me. They should have given Uncas more opportunities to rush to Alice's aid.

: : : : Katherine

: : : And I'm talking about the script not giving Uncas more opportunites to be with Alice explicitly or rush to her aid more.

: : : And Alice didn't have to be portrayed as so frail

: : : Katherine

: : Katherine, a few more thoughts on Uncas & Alice. Of course, we'll never know for sure, but possibly the acting just wasn't up to Mann's high standards in those parts that were obviously edited.....then again maybe the scenes were so strongly acted that it would've upset the cora/Nathaniel impact, that the director envisioned.

: : The actress that portrayed Alice, has the ultimate "dropped-jaw", traumatized expression for her role. It seems to be very much in character with James Fenimore Cooper's Alice. If it was me, observing an Indian massacre, feeling the danger while being hunted at night, seeing the aftermath of a slaughtered family, my expression would have been that of emotional paralysis as well...If I was the actress who played Alice, however, I'm sure the edited results wouldn't make me very happy......ann

: Hi Ann,

: I think the actress who played Alice (Jodhi May)is an excellent actress. One of her best roles is in the movie A WORLD APART. She was very young when the movie was made. The whole movie is seen through her eyes. It was her debut into film. She is truly amazing and has that same innocence that she displays in LOTM.

: Hope you can rent the film and let me know what you think.

: Ayesha

O.K. Ayesha, I'll check it out ASAP and let you know my thoughts....ann...P.S. what year was "A World Apart" released?..and under which category can it be found at the video store...adventure, romance??

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• Re: Both Uncas and Alice given the short end of the stick Katherine 12:52:33 8/03/98 (3)
  • Re: Both Uncas and Alice given the short end of the stick ann 13:39:03 8/03/98 (2)
    • Re:If I were Alice ... Katherine 13:57:26 8/03/98 (1)
      • Re:If I were Alice ... ann 15:44:57 8/03/98 (0)
• Jodhi May in "A World Apart" Petra 12:38:14 8/03/98 (1)
  • Re: Jodhi May in "A World Apart" Ayesha 13:57:14 8/03/98 (0)

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: : : : : : Sarah's comment in her "why we can't watch" post below about Uncas' look at Alice in his final scene, brought to mind another thought I've had about the massacre scene.

: : : : : : Why didn't Michael Mann have Uncas rather than Chingachgook(Yeah!..believe I spelled it correctly:o) help Alice escape from the massacre??...it would have been oh so much more romantic if he had.....he seems to deliberately keep the focus off the relationship between the younger couple.  

: : : : : : The hopeless romantic.....ann

: : : : : Yes I am in total agreement. I just bought the LOTM (unfortunately only the pan and scan version but I will get the other version as well) Anyways I watched the massacre scene again and I thought also it be so heroic and romantic for Uncas to rush over and save Alice as Hawkeye went and saved Cora. A lot of times it seemed the script called for Uncas to hold back behind Hawkeye and behind Chingachgook.  It has bothered me.  They should have given Uncas more opportunities to rush to Alice's aid.

: : : : : Katherine

: : : : And I'm talking about the script not giving Uncas more opportunites to be with Alice explicitly or rush to her aid more.

: : : : And Alice didn't have to be portrayed as so frail

: : : : Katherine

: : : Katherine, a few more thoughts on Uncas & Alice.  Of course, we'll never know for sure, but possibly the acting just wasn't up to Mann's high standards in those parts that were obviously edited.....then again maybe the scenes were so strongly acted that it would've upset the cora/Nathaniel impact, that the director envisioned.

: : : The actress that portrayed Alice, has the ultimate "dropped-jaw", traumatized expression for her role. It seems to be very much in character with James Fenimore Cooper's Alice.  If it was me, observing an Indian massacre, feeling the danger while being hunted at night, seeing the aftermath of a slaughtered family, my expression would have been that of emotional paralysis as well...If I was the actress who played Alice, however, I'm sure the edited results wouldn't make me very happy......ann

: : Hi Ann,

: : I think the actress who played Alice (Jodhi May)is an excellent actress.  One of her best roles is in the movie A WORLD APART.  She was very young when the movie was made.  The whole movie is seen through her eyes. It was her debut into film.  She is truly amazing and has that same innocence that she displays in LOTM.

: : Hope you can rent the film and let me know what you think.

: : Ayesha

: O.K. Ayesha, I'll check it out ASAP and let you know my thoughts....ann...P.S. what year was "A World Apart" released?..and under which category can it be found at the video store...adventure, romance??


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