Re: Magua, the Warrior's Warrior

Posted by Elaine on July 31, 1998 at 09:41:36:

In Reply to: Re: Magua, the Warrior's Warrior posted by Victoria on July 31, 1998 at 09:17:53:

: Just cause Hawkeye comes up with some bogus belt he probably used to hold up his underwear, what makes him right?

: At least some people can see something of the true Magua.

: An I ain't no dang lawyer!

:
: Somewhat respectfully,
: Victoria

Victoria,

Your defense of Magua as a warrior's warrior can not be matched. This, I think, is not in dispute. And your reasoning as to how and why Magua is "twisted" is sound. I agree with every word of it. But, surely you are not declaring him to be heroic? His betrayal first of the Mohawk, whose respect and trust for the Mingo led to his Iroquoian adoption, then later, his own people the Huron, disqualifies him from the hero running. Magua's self interest would bring trouble to Huronia. For this, he was reprimanded by the Sachem. Magua's reaction was not exactly conciliatory, nor did the "son of his people" express concern for their common good. Only his own vengeance, however understandable it was, would do. He left cursing and showing disrespect to his elders. No, no. Still not a hero.

And then there is Magua's creation in Cooper's mind. He was the protagonist of the tale. No matter how you cut it, or how sympathetic to his hardships one is, he remains the villain of LOTM.

Not a dang lawyer? I know, but you'd be very good.

Elaine
(Who is known to be a Huron-phile)

Follow Ups:

• Re: Magua, the Warrior's Warrior Victoria 13:01:17 7/31/98 (1)
  • Re: Magua, the Warrior's Warrior Elaine 15:43:21 7/31/98 (0)
• Re: Magua, the Warrior's Warrior and the ANTAGONIST Elaine 10:59:46 7/31/98 (3)
  • Re: Magua, the Warrior's Warrior and the ANTAGONIST ann 15:08:15 7/31/98 (1)
    • Re: Magua, the Warrior's Warrior and the ANTAGONIST Elaine 15:47:02 7/31/98 (0)
  • Re: Magua, the Warrior's Warrior and the ANTAGONIST Marcia 11:19:51 7/31/98 (0)
• Re: Magua, the Warrior's Warrior Marcia 09:59:15 7/31/98 (0)

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: : Just cause Hawkeye comes up with some bogus belt he probably used to hold up his underwear, what makes him right? 

: : At least some people can see something of the true Magua.

: : An I ain't no dang lawyer! 

: : 
: : Somewhat respectfully, 
: : Victoria

: Victoria,

: Your defense of Magua as a warrior's warrior can not be matched. This, I think, is not in dispute. And your reasoning as to how and why Magua is "twisted" is sound. I agree with every word of it. But, surely you are not declaring him to be heroic? His betrayal first of the Mohawk, whose respect and trust for the Mingo led to his Iroquoian adoption, then later, his own people the Huron, disqualifies him from the hero running. Magua's self interest would bring trouble to Huronia. For this, he was reprimanded by the Sachem. Magua's reaction was not exactly conciliatory, nor did the "son of his people" express concern for their common good. Only his own vengeance, however understandable it was, would do. He left cursing and showing disrespect to his elders. No, no. Still not a hero.

: And then there is Magua's creation in Cooper's mind. He was the protagonist of the tale. No matter how you cut it, or how sympathetic to his hardships one is, he remains the villain of LOTM.

: Not a dang lawyer? I know, but you'd be very good.

: Elaine
: (Who is known to be a Huron-phile)


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