Re: Alice, Magua, Uncas...

Posted by Myrrh on October 30, 1997 at 10:20:57:

In Reply to: Re: Alice, Magua, Uncas... posted by maggie on October 30, 1997 at 09:50:19:

: I've never thought of Magua's reaction as "oh well" or "win some, lose some". He seems totally perplexed by Alice's suicide. For me, this scene exemplifies the idea that this was Alice's victory over her tormentor. She does something utterly alien to Magua, something he simply cannot understand. The expressions are fleeting, but I like to think there was even some admiration for her sacrifice in the moments after her leap. (Okay, I may be stretching that one, but we all see things with our own eyes. More reason to praise Wes Studi.)

: mags

Points VERY well taken, Maggie. I think I agree. I believe there is real consternation under that stony facade. He seems confused and angry for a fleeting moment there, then reverts almost instantaneously to dismissing both the person and the event.

I think, before she jumped, when he looked into that face beaming with transcendental strength, he thought maybe she was worth having after all, and beckoned her back. When she jumped, it was the ultimate insult, the ultimate rejection to him, and you're right, he couldn't comprehend it, probably didn't want to either. Even if he felt a second's admiration for her (and I think that's possible), his only way to deal with it (and save face) was to dismiss her immediately.

Myrrh

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: : I've never thought of Magua's reaction as "oh well" or "win some, lose some". He seems totally perplexed by Alice's suicide. For me, this scene exemplifies the idea that this was Alice's victory over her tormentor. She does something utterly alien to Magua, something he simply cannot understand. The expressions are fleeting, but I like to think there was even some admiration for her sacrifice in the moments after her leap. (Okay, I may be stretching that one, but we all see things with our own eyes. More reason to praise Wes Studi.)

: : mags

: Points VERY well taken, Maggie.  I think I agree.  I believe there is real consternation under that stony facade.  He seems confused and angry for a fleeting moment there, then reverts almost instantaneously to dismissing both the person and the event.  

: I think, before she jumped, when he looked into that face beaming with transcendental strength, he thought maybe she was worth having after all, and beckoned her back.  When she jumped, it was the ultimate insult, the ultimate rejection to him, and you're right, he couldn't comprehend it, probably didn't want to either.  Even if he felt a second's admiration for her (and I think that's possible), his only way to deal with it (and save face) was to dismiss her immediately.

: Myrrh


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