Re: What if ....... Alice and Uncas the sequal

Posted by erin on July 06, 1998 at 14:12:34:

In Reply to: Re: What if ....... Alice and Uncas the sequal posted by Alysha on July 06, 1998 at 12:35:01:

: : I think they should have gone for it - and to hell with the consequences!!

: : Wolfie.

: : : A happy 4th of July to all you in the USA from a wannabe republican!!
: : : I know all you guys are out there celebrating but down in in NZ I'm just cold!! So I've been thinking.....
: : : What if Alice and Uncas had not shuffled off this mortal coil and they had indeed burst their respective bodices and declared their feelings that were nearly so obvious! Would such a relationship, in those times, have been allowed to continue and flourish? Would Cora and Chingachcook(Is that the right spelling?) have allowed it do you think? I vaguely remember a mini series or drama a while ago that dealt with this issue where a widowed settler had begun a relationship with a NA man and they were both dealt with fairly severely.
: : : So what do you think?
: : : Shivering at my computer
: : : Erin!

: I think Uncas and Alice, as the movie portrayed them, would have fared better than Cooper's Uncas would have(did that make any sense!). Mann's Uncas seemed more accustomed to the white man's ways(since he went to the white man's school with Hawkeye)and that would have gone a long way in the adjustments both would have had to face. As to Coopers's Uncas, he definitely was "a breed apart" and would have a tougher time "making sense" to Alice's English sensibilities("There he goes again! Bringing those smelly scalps in the cabin, after I just polished and cleaned it up proper!"). And also which world would the children live in, white or Native? Ideally, a pleasant mixture of both. But that wasn't (isn't)always the case.
: Alysha

Hi Alysha and Wolfie
Have to agree with you - go for it they should have!!
I don't know about the fair Alice but as for me i would have not objected to smelly scalps, skined animals, blood spots, washing his two shirts, respraying his chest tattoos (Have you seen that picture) brushing his hair ......wasn't there a song called "The Things That make You go Mmmm' those are them!!
Erin

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• Re: What if ....... Alice and Uncas the sequal Chris 18:47:59 7/07/98 (0)
• Re: What if ....... Alice and Uncas the sequal wolfie 03:36:10 7/07/98 (0)
• OOOps erin 14:15:54 7/06/98 (7)
  • alice/uncas whatif, and the missing footage Myrrh 22:00:22 7/06/98 (6)
    • Re: alice/uncas whatif, and the missing footage myte 00:45:51 7/08/98 (2)
      • Re: alice/uncas whatif, and the missing footage Rich 06:05:33 7/08/98 (1)
        • Ros' account of the missing footage MYRRH 18:02:51 7/08/98 (0)
    • Re: alice/uncas whatif, and the missing footage caitlin 22:42:48 7/06/98 (2)
      • Re: alice/uncas whatif, and the missing footage wolfie 03:38:12 7/07/98 (1)
        • Re: alice/uncas whatif, the missing footage, and ROS Myrrh 23:08:32 7/07/98 (0)

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: : : I think they should  have gone for it - and to hell with the consequences!!

: : : Wolfie.

: : : : A happy 4th of July to all you in the USA from a wannabe republican!!
: : : : I know all you guys are out there celebrating but down in in NZ I'm just cold!! So I've been thinking.....
: : : : What if Alice and Uncas had not shuffled off this mortal coil and they had indeed burst their respective bodices and declared their feelings that were nearly so obvious! Would such a relationship, in those times, have been allowed to continue and flourish? Would Cora and Chingachcook(Is that the right spelling?) have allowed it do you think? I vaguely remember a mini series or drama a while ago that dealt with this issue where a widowed settler had begun a relationship with a NA man and they were both dealt with fairly severely. 
: : : : So what do you think?
: : : : Shivering at my computer
: : : : Erin!

: : I think Uncas and Alice, as the movie portrayed them, would have fared better than Cooper's Uncas would have(did that make any sense!).  Mann's Uncas seemed more accustomed to the white man's ways(since he went to the white man's school with Hawkeye)and that would have gone a long way in the adjustments both would have had to face.  As to Coopers's Uncas, he definitely was "a breed apart" and would have a tougher time "making sense" to Alice's English sensibilities("There he goes again! Bringing those smelly scalps in the cabin, after I just polished and cleaned it up proper!"). And also which world would the children live in, white or Native? Ideally, a pleasant mixture of both.  But that wasn't (isn't)always the case.
: : Alysha

: Hi Alysha and Wolfie
: Have to agree with you - go for it they should have!!
: I don't know about the fair Alice but as for me i would have not objected to smelly scalps, skined animals, blood spots, washing his two shirts, respraying his chest tattoos (Have you seen that picture) brushing his hair ......wasn't there a song called "The Things That make You go Mmmm' those are them!!
: Erin


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