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Posted by Petra on July 02, 1998 at 14:49:35:

In Reply to: Re: Questions posted by Diana on July 01, 1998 at 10:23:56:

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: Regarding Rich's Comment:

: : Without passing judgement one way or the other ... Indian life was FILLED with violence, back in the traditional days. Some, was caused as the direct result of European encroachment, but much existed prior to.

: I am really enjoying the postings on this board. I've been a closet " Mohicanite " for years and am new to the board. But on this subject I have an interesting story regarding my own family and NA violence.

: According to my family records, events told through generations involved the massacre of one whole segment of the Clendenin family in Kanawa country ( early West Virginia, 1750's ).They had arrived from Scotland a few years earlier and were interested in making a home on the frontier. All the men of the settlers encampment were killed by a Shawnee war party, and the small children and women were taken prisoner. My ancestor's wife ( my 7x great aunt) carried an infant, but handed the child to one of the other women while she ducked into the bushes and escaped. Shortly after her departure the infant began to cry. An Indian on a horse rode by, grabbed the child by its foot and dashed it's brains out on a nearby tree and tossed the baby on the trail where it was trampled. The woman eventually made her way on foot back to the encampment and covered her husband's body ( he didn't " stay as he laid " ) and continued on to Fort Jackson near Covington ,VA. I'm just getting started researching information about the locations and events surrounding this story. I was so moved when I looked on the map and realized the distance this woman traveled ( from Keeney's Knob,WV to Covington,VA )to reach her husband and then ultimately some help. I think this type of courageous trek would be a great subject for a book or novella. What do ya think?

: Di

Good you've stepped out of that closet ...
Yes, maybe you should write a book about it to save the story for your off-spring, and no matter how politically correct it may seem to some people.
And, I agree with Rich that no nation should be romanticized. (Always like to point out of course, that most of all, everyone should avoid romanticizing their own nation's deeds and history.)
I always like to think about the human side of any such story, and about what may have got people to act without any feelings for the suffering of another human being. The dehumanizing of certain other people in their mind? Personal hate? The association of the suffering individual with violence they have experienced from others? I don't think smashing babies against trees is part of any nation's culture or traditional ways.
Petra

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: : Regarding Rich's Comment:

: : : Without passing judgement one way or the other ... Indian life was FILLED with violence, back in the traditional days. Some, was caused as the direct result of European encroachment, but much existed prior to.

: : I am really enjoying the postings on this board. I've been a closet " Mohicanite " for years and am new to the board. But on this subject I have an interesting story regarding my own family and NA violence.

: : According to my family records, events told through generations involved the massacre of one whole segment of the Clendenin family in Kanawa country ( early West Virginia, 1750's ).They had arrived from Scotland a few years earlier and were interested in making a home on the frontier. All the men of the settlers encampment were killed by a Shawnee war party, and the small children and women were taken prisoner. My ancestor's wife ( my 7x great aunt) carried an infant, but handed the child to one of the other women while she ducked into the bushes and escaped. Shortly after her departure the infant began to cry. An Indian on a horse rode by, grabbed the child by its foot and dashed it's brains out on a nearby tree and tossed the baby on the trail where it was trampled. The woman eventually made her way on foot back to the encampment and covered her husband's body ( he didn't " stay as he laid " ) and continued on to Fort Jackson near Covington ,VA. I'm just getting started researching information about the locations and events surrounding this story. I was so moved when I looked on the map and realized the distance this woman traveled ( from Keeney's Knob,WV to Covington,VA )to reach her husband and then ultimately some help. I think this type of courageous trek would be a great subject for a book or novella. What do ya think?

: : Di

:
: Good you've stepped out of that closet ...
: Yes, maybe you should write a book about it to save the story for your off-spring, and no matter how politically correct it may seem to some people.
: And, I agree with Rich that no nation should be romanticized. (Always like to point out of course, that most of all, everyone should avoid romanticizing their own nation's deeds and history.)
: I always like to think about the human side of any such story, and about what may have got people to act without any feelings for the suffering of another human being. The dehumanizing of certain other people in their mind? Personal hate? The association of the suffering individual with violence they have experienced from others? I don't think smashing babies against trees is part of any nation's culture or traditional ways.
: Petra

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