Re: Read all responses & respectfully add mine...

Posted by Myrrh on December 03, 1997 at 13:35:57:

In Reply to: Re: Read all responses & respectfully add mine... posted by Energia on December 03, 1997 at 11:13:04:

Hi, all.
Energia said: "Also, to say that one understands his negative words because of the history of Indians, is to stereo~type him as the poor, suffering Indian, to feel sorry about."

Not at all. I was one who made that comment, and I wasn't thinking in those terms - I'm sorry if I conveyed that. I think it's just plain human to feel compassion for one's group, and when that group's history is one of oppression and genocide, one might justifiably feel outrage, as I think, from reading his words, he does (this is an assumption, since all I know of him is what I've read). My 'common sense' tells me that some of the emotion behind his statements stems from this outrage at the historical treatment of Indians, which goes back not just a couple generations, but hundreds of years.

I also believe, though, that some of the emotion conveyed by his words stems from what he himself has seen and experienced in his life. So I agree with you when you say, "He's speaking against injustices he's seen in his own life..." but I would add that he's probably expressing (between the lines in this particular interview) outrage at the abuse he received as a boy. Again, these are assumptions, but I think they make sense.

Also: "...he did speak out about timecard tampering, the strike of the Makeup Artists on LOTM as well, it wasn't all Hollywood against Indians."

Good point. But I don't think people here mean to make the blanket statement that all he talked about was Hollywood against Indians. I think they/we are focusing on certain points of what he said, trying to understand why he said it, what his understanding is, how he feels about it. (And it gets emotional for a number of reasons.)

"...Anytime someone speaks passionately against injustices to their race, it is taken as an attack on (all non~Indians in this case)."

I agree that this happens all too often and that those of us who "belong" to the "majority" culture need to stay alert to it.

Myrrh

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• Re: Read all responses & respectfully add mine... Energia 17:04:00 12/03/97 (1)
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: Hi, all.
: Energia said: "Also, to say that one understands his negative words because of the history of Indians, is to stereo~type him as the poor, suffering Indian, to feel sorry about."

: Not at all.  I was one who made that comment, and I wasn't thinking in those terms - I'm sorry if I conveyed that.  I think it's just plain human to feel compassion for one's group, and when that group's history is one of oppression and genocide, one might justifiably feel outrage, as I think, from reading his words, he does (this is an assumption, since all I know of him is what I've read).  My 'common sense' tells me that some of the emotion behind his statements stems from this outrage at the historical treatment of Indians, which goes back not just a couple generations, but hundreds of years.

: I also believe, though, that some of the emotion conveyed by his words stems from what he himself has seen and experienced in his life.  So I agree with you when you say, "He's speaking against injustices he's seen in his own life..." but I would add that he's probably expressing (between the lines in this particular interview) outrage at the abuse he received as a boy.  Again, these are assumptions, but I think they make sense.

: Also: "...he did speak out about timecard tampering, the strike of the Makeup Artists on LOTM as well, it wasn't all Hollywood against Indians."

: Good point.  But I don't think people here mean to make the blanket statement that all he talked about was Hollywood against Indians.  I think they/we are focusing on certain points of what he said, trying to understand why he said it, what his understanding is, how he feels about it. (And it gets emotional for a number of reasons.)

: "...Anytime someone speaks passionately against injustices to their race, it is taken as an attack on (all non~Indians in this case)."

: I agree that this happens all too often and that those of us who "belong" to the "majority" culture need to stay alert to it.

: Myrrh


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