Re: Alice, Magua, Uncas...

Posted by Marcia on November 03, 1997 at 18:18:55:

In Reply to: Re: Alice, Magua, Uncas... posted by Elaine on October 31, 1997 at 07:51:06:

Elaine wrote:

: Well, Marcia, since you asked ... Magua, as an Eastern Woodland Indian, would have seen Alice's action as a desperate, cowardly deed. Alice's refusal to go on might have been admired had she exhibited some spunk, or a little "I dare you to kill me" stance. But she didn't do that. She had lost her will to live, her strength to go on. Alice was progressively sinking into a depressing stupor. During the Massacre Valley scene, when that very large Ottawa was directing his predatory attention toward Alice, she just stood there. Not an ounce of resistance. No spunk, no spark, no will. Had Cora (who was a breed apart from Alice in the bravery department) not intervened and jumped the Ottawa, Alice would have been dead; and she didn't care a bit. (And this was prior to Uncas' death.)

Hi, Elaine...just got back from 4 days in the wilderness myself, and so just read your response here. I agree entirely with your description of Alice. I have always thought she was just too fragile emotionally for any of the misadventures which befell her. But I wasn't sure whether Magua's culture would have led him to consider her suicide an act of cowardice or not. Thanks for your thoughts.

Marcia

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• Re: Alice, Magua, Uncas... Elaine 21:49:01 11/03/97 (2)
  • Re: Alice, Magua, Uncas... Marcia 06:11:44 11/04/97 (1)
    • Re: Alice, Magua, Uncas... Neuromancer 13:07:53 11/04/97 (0)

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: Elaine wrote:

: : Well, Marcia, since you asked ... Magua, as an Eastern Woodland Indian, would have seen Alice's action as a desperate, cowardly deed. Alice's refusal to go on might have been admired had she exhibited some spunk, or a little "I dare you to kill me" stance. But she didn't do that. She had lost her will to live, her strength to go on. Alice was progressively sinking into a depressing stupor. During the Massacre Valley scene, when that very large Ottawa was directing his predatory attention toward Alice, she just stood there. Not an ounce of resistance. No spunk, no spark, no will. Had Cora (who was a breed apart from Alice in the bravery department) not intervened and jumped the Ottawa,  Alice would have been dead; and she didn't care a bit.  (And this was prior to Uncas' death.)

: Hi, Elaine...just got back from 4 days in the wilderness myself, and so just read your response here.  I agree entirely with your description of Alice.  I have always thought she was just too fragile emotionally for any of the misadventures which befell her.  But I wasn't sure whether Magua's culture would have led him to consider her suicide an act of cowardice or not.  Thanks for your thoughts.

: Marcia


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