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whistlingboy
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Posted - April 27 2005 :  10:40:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Warlord: How anybody could have ever mistaken me to be an alter ego of you is really a stretch....your creative imagination is quick....I'm not even the 'i' in your imaginative mind...hehe....quite good and I just bet you have a ton more from where those came from...I'm the one rolling in laughter now....goodnight!
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BJMarkland
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Posted - April 28 2005 :  06:58:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit BJMarkland's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wILD I


I don't understand the 100% reference to American military numbers
From Dec 41 to July 43 there was no US land troops in Combat in Europe




Errr, you had better reread your history Wild. Fifty-four men of the 1st Ranger Battalion (U.S. Army) accompanied the Canadians on the Dieppe raid August 19, 1942. The first American killed in European ground combat, Lt. L.V. Loustalot, was killed after taking over command of a unit of British Commandoes whose captain had been killed.

You might also to take into consideration that Operation Torch occurred on, I believe, Nov. 8, 1942 with quite a contingent of Americans along. Granted, that is not the European landmass but then, the Brits were not exactly too active on that front either beyond Commando raids.

Sources used (do not have a conniption Paul, I am doing something for work and don't have time to quote from books) are:

http://www.rangerfamily.org/Battalion%20Pages/firsta.htm

http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/jfq_pubs/optorch4.pdf

Best of wishes,

Billy


Edited by - BJMarkland on April 28 2005 07:03:08 AM
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whistlingboy
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Posted - April 28 2005 :  09:25:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dark Cloud: Actually, Warlord and I might disagree on your writing talent but I seriously do think you write quite well 'cause you, for whatever reason, have the ability to stimulate responses and, after all, that is usually the main reason to write something, isn't it? What writer/author of books, pamphlets, thesis's, etc. do not want responses to their endeavors? Have you written any books?
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - April 28 2005 :  11:47:42 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dark Cloud's Homepage  Reply with Quote
By all means visit my site, where any discussion about me should be held, not burning up someone else's bandwidth. Feel free Whistlingboy. No more difficult than your past emails to me to post on the forum there.

Dark Cloud
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wILD I
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Posted - April 28 2005 :  12:53:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Errr, you had better reread your history Wild. Fifty-four men of the 1st Ranger Battalion (U.S. Army) accompanied the Canadians on the Dieppe raid August 19, 1942.
Sorry BJ but they got no futher than the low tide water make which is technically not Europe.
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - April 28 2005 :  1:04:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Dark Cloud's Homepage  Reply with Quote
They were based where, however. In England. Europe.

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BJMarkland
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Posted - April 28 2005 :  7:19:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit BJMarkland's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wILD I

Errr, you had better reread your history Wild. Fifty-four men of the 1st Ranger Battalion (U.S. Army) accompanied the Canadians on the Dieppe raid August 19, 1942.
Sorry BJ but they got no futher than the low tide water make which is technically not Europe.



Wild, with no respect intended, BULL****! You may get by with some posters with your self-pitying sense of "oh, poor Irish me, kicked in the shins and butt by the British bullies, so therefore America is guilty!" crap but not with me. Rewrite your fictional history on someone else's time.

Now, I realize you are being a troll or just Irish, so I will not procede to breech-slap you anymore.

Please read the Ranger website. Climbing a cliff, leading a force of British Commandoes, and attacking a machine-gun emplacement at the top does not sound like "low-water mark" unless you are referencing Noah's flood. As a matter of fact, I can imagine many Canadian and British readers being fairly well outraged by that statement also.

And if you come back with some gobbley-gook about it being a web site, I promise I will find some official U.S. government or even better, British government documents as supporting evidence...oh, silly me, I forgot you trust neither so therefore they don't count as evidence.

Wild, for someone who normally appears as somewhat reasonable, this fixation that America is the cause of Ireland's being the pile of refuse by the privy door is unreasonable. The only thing I can attribute it to is that your great-grandparents could not afford cash to emmigrate to America so you have been nursing this lovely inferiority complex for many years and here have found a forum to attempt to spread it.

Arrrggghhhhh, what's the use of dealing with closed minds?

Billy
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dave
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Posted - April 28 2005 :  7:47:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you include American's serving in the RAF and other British units then there were American's fighting in Europe at least 2 years prior to the Dieppe landing. I seem to recall that there was a Spitfire squadron made up almost exclusively of American volunteers, although I might have my facts muddled somewhat.
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Dark Cloud
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Posted - April 28 2005 :  7:53:08 PM  Show Profile  Visit Dark Cloud's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Arklandmay, ifway ouyay on'tday opstay e'llhay artstay otingquay
Irishway oetrypay againway, andway I'mway outway ofway
insulinway. Easeplay, onay oremay. Inkthay ofway ethay
ildrenchay. On'tway omebodysay inkthay ofway ethay ildrenchay?

And yes, Dave, but it somehow is important that it's boot on ground, and he doesn't count England in Europe. Or Iceland, for that matter. Isn't that Europe?

Dark Cloud
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BJMarkland
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Posted - April 28 2005 :  8:12:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit BJMarkland's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Irish Poetry? Oh my God, someone call the Department of Homeland Security!!! We have found the missing WMD from Iraq!

Outtahere,

Billy
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whistlingboy
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Posted - April 28 2005 :  8:34:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Was Wild counting the Eastern Front as part of Europe cause hundreds of Americans were fighting there in '43 according to Robert Willett's book.
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wILD I
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Posted - April 29 2005 :  09:56:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wild, with no respect intended, BULL****!
BJ
The old low water mark trick still catches them .Of course it's bull****!How could you have taken it seriously?Don't be so tight arsed.Lighten up a bit.

And yes, Dave, but it somehow is important that it's boot on ground, and he doesn't count England in Europe. Or Iceland, for that matter. Isn't that Europe?
There was no front in Western Europe until July 43.

Was Wild counting the Eastern Front as part of Europe cause hundreds of Americans were fighting there in '43 according to Robert Willett's book.
You could be right there WB.I think I read somewhere of Americans enlisting in the German Army.

He used to have some great insightful posts.
Ya get pissed off being insightful all the time.Need to walk on the Wild I side now and again.

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