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 did french milice take scalps/wear war paint?
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P.J.
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Posted - April 18 2006 :  6:44:39 PM  Show Profile  Send P.J. an AOL message  Reply with Quote
hi all, im a french milice reeanctor and ive seen some milice with painted faces. it stands to reason that as some adopted native dress and even native famlies that they would also use war paint and maybe take scalps...i was just wondering if anyone here had any info/documentation as to weather or not this is accurate,thanks a bunch!
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First, Milice come from different areas. The ones from Quebec wore red justaucorps and looked as good as any regular unit. One might also be a Metis or an Habitant and be in the Milice. Duquesne boasted that he had inspected every Milice unit in New France and they were all properly drilled, so by his standards, no. But then there was Langlade (my hero) who was half Amerindian and conducted himself as such. He even ended up as an Ensigne in the Marines. I think if the Milice were operating with the Amerindians, say like at the Monongahela, then it is very possible that they wore paint and perhaps took scalps, if for no other reason than to impress their allies (and it's fun). But that's just an opinion, no hard facts. I do have documentation that the white Loyalist citizens of South Carolina took scalps in the 1780's.

By the way, it's great to be French!


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Posted - April 18 2006 :  7:43:09 PM  Show Profile  Send P.J. an AOL message  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
its good to be french indeed! yeah, my persona is of a person who would have either come to the americas at an early age or would have been born there, gotten to know the natives well, gotten to know their customs, maybe served as a guide through native terrotorie and might have even taken a native wife...i more or less wanted to know if i was streching history or if i was commiting a great phopah. do you know of any styles of woodland face painting?...
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I have never gotten into the Amerindian side of things, so I don't know what the paint represents, although I have heard varing opinions. Documentation sometimes is a little hard to come by in that area, but opinions are plentyful. But one thing I have heard is that the paint is for war, so out of that context it would not be used.

One other thing. I know it's on the Brit side of things, but I wonder if Sir William Johnson used paint?


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Fitzhugh Williams asked: One other thing. I know it's on the Brit side of things, but I wonder if Sir William Johnson used paint?


I do not recall exactly where I had read it, but I am familiar with the story of a young Sir William (mid 1740's) who was painted and dressed only in a breechclout, while performing a war-dance at the Onadaga council.

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