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Edmund McKinnon
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 Posted - September 15 2002 : 10:41:13 PM
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Dear Friends,on Sept.14,2002 we recently celebrated the 244th anniversary of the "Battle of Grant's Hill".It was the second major engagement involving Highlanders in the service of the British Crown in North America in 1758(the first involved "The BlackWatch" at Ft.Ticonderoga several months prior).A sideshow of the Forbes Campaign,it was only supposed to be a reconnaisance of Ft.Duquesne to check the French allied-indians who were harassing the British forces at Ft.Ligonier some 50 miles distant.When Major James Grant of the 77th thought that the stillness of the post meant that it was understrength,he decided to attack,in violation of his orders and suffered 270 casualties out of 800 in his force.Grant was also captured,and spent the next year as a p.o.w. in Quebec He did come back as a General during the RevWar to battle against George Washington on Long Island.We are currently filming a documetary"George Washington's First War:The Battle for Ft.Duquesne".This is the first time that "The Battle of Grant's Hill"will be on film.Check it out at:www.paladincom.com EM
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SgtMunro
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Posted - September 23 2002 : 11:07:02 AM
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Aye Lieutenant, the good major was certainly an example of the "peter principle". The one and only act of redemption was his ability to broker a peace treaty with the Cherokee Tribes in the Carolinias, after his exchange from the French. This cerainly demonstrated the need to limit the major's duties to diplomatic ones only and to leave the tactical problems to more competent commanders, like yourself...
Your Faithful Sergeant,
Duncan
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Seamus
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Posted - September 23 2002 : 1:44:48 PM
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Welcome aboard, Sgt. Boot Licker! ("....like yourself...", indeed!!!) (Snicker, snicker!)
Good to have you aboard, Duncan! See you at Loyalhanna 3 weeks hence...(Ft. Ligonier to the uninformed.)
My love to Lady Munro!
Pax Aye!!
Seamus
~~Aim small, hit the b*****d right between the eyes!~~
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SgtMunro
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Posted - September 23 2002 : 2:55:28 PM
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My cousin Seamus, it is good to hear from you. Lady Munro sends hugs and kisses and we both look forward to seeing you again at Loyalhanna. We will have to have a wee dram to salute our cousin Malcom, who will be campaigning in New York Colony.
Your Cousin,
Duncan
P.S.- Any word on the Kittaning Medal I inquired about obtaining?
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Edmund McKinnon
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Posted - September 25 2002 : 02:56:50 AM
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You two look like you're having entirely too much fun on this forum do you think that Major Grant will make an appearance at Fort Ligonier?(along with the George Washington mannequin )
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Seamus
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Posted - September 25 2002 : 07:53:04 AM
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Why not.....you took his inflatable sheep with you when you left. Heheheheheheh!
Pax Aye!!
Seamus
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Edmund McKinnon
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 Posted - September 27 2002 : 3:11:36 PM
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Tis' true cousin,but won't it make the mannequins of Henri Bouquet & Archibald Montgomery a wee bit jealous? :D
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SgtMunro
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Posted - September 30 2002 : 02:07:56 AM
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Aye Lieutenant, but we must tell Cousin Seamus the whole story over a few drinks at Loyalhanna. Since he has already had the "Major Grant Experience" in 2001, he will really appreciate the humor...
Your Sergeant,
Duncan
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Edmund McKinnon
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Posted - October 01 2002 : 5:19:44 PM
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Agreed,I think that everyone should have the "Major Grant Experience"to truly appreciate what they have.I suppose that "everyone serves a purpose,even if it's as a bad example"(Leadership Secrets of Attilla the Hun)
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SgtMunro
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Posted - October 02 2002 : 12:52:23 AM
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Ah yes, but remember when he said to you at Edge Hill, "You have alot to learn about being an officer." I guess that experience as a line officer in the U.S. Army doesn't count with the "major". I guess next he'll say that I have alot to learn about being a sergeant (Once again, I guess experience as a squad leader in actual combat doesn't count with him either).
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Edmund McKinnon
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Posted - October 02 2002 : 10:28:12 PM
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Tis' true,and you should not mention that"other"regiment in his presence
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SgtMunro
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Posted - October 03 2002 : 01:13:46 AM
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He is to busy confronting the Bouquet, Washington and Montgomery manequins in regards to their conspiring against his master plan to take Ft. Duquesne...
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Edmund McKinnon
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Posted - October 03 2002 : 9:02:46 PM
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Tell me then,will he be the officer presiding over their courts-martial?
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SgtMunro
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Posted - October 09 2002 : 12:46:22 AM
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I know this is a bit off subject Lieutenant, but being that 2003 is the 240th anniversary of the Battle of Bushy Run and we are members of the Ft. Pitt Associates Board, do you think we should plan a special memorial for the lads to attend on that hallow ground?
Sgt. Duncan Munro
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Edmund McKinnon
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Posted - October 09 2002 : 03:48:20 AM
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Great idea,glad I thought of it
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SgtMunro
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Posted - October 09 2002 : 09:14:07 AM
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Aye sir, and here's to a good weekend at Loyalhanna....
...And its all for me grog,
me jolly, jolly grog,
all gone for beer and tobacco...
Sgt. Duncan Munro
Capt. Graham's Coy
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Edmund McKinnon
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 Posted - October 21 2002 : 6:40:06 PM
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And what a good weekend it was We got some things accomplished and have established ourselves as a new unit(much like Rich Baker and his Virginians).The 77th was a useful vehicle to get us to the movie(and Grant's Hill).Now the next one will get us to Bushy Run as the RHR.
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SgtMunro
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Posted - October 21 2002 : 10:47:56 PM
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Right Captain, but let us now enjoy the fruits of our labors. After we get a good workout at Doc's this weekend, we can then look forward to a good season closer at OBV....
... Oh, I wish I was a gunner,
Aboard that Man-O-War...
Sgt. Duncan Munro
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Edmund McKinnon
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Posted - October 27 2002 : 8:55:39 PM
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There is a lot that can be learned from this battle,as many military types consider it a classic example of small unit tactics,and is still studied today.Once we bring it to the silver screen in "George Washington's First War:The Battle for Ft.Duquesne"using computer generated graphics(much as was done for Braddock's Defeat in When the Forest Ran Red)it will be better illustrated.Check it out at:www.paladincom.com EM
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Posted - October 29 2002 : 04:47:51 AM
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Captain, I believe you made mention once of an order, during that battle, for the men to remove their regimentals in order to better use their broadswords. Where was that recorded? I cannot locate it within the Vogler Library (And you know how extensive that is!!!).
Your Humble Servant,
Sgt. Duncan Munro
Capt. Graham's Coy
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Edmund McKinnon
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Posted - October 30 2002 : 01:37:05 AM
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I believe that "Ft.Ligonier and its Times"covers it.When I first saw it,it was off a webpage that mentions the battle as well as casualty figures for officers & nco's of the 77th.Check the handouts that I sent out with my brother,you may already have it.EM
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Posted - October 30 2002 : 02:41:20 AM
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I checked "Ft. Ligonier and It's Times", and it was a 'no-joy' result. I'll peruse "The Papers of Edmound Highlander" in the A.M., I'm sure I'll find it there.
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Edmund McKinnon
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Posted - October 30 2002 : 12:29:53 PM
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Yes,I thought it was in there and I know I've seen it in print.I'll keep checking on my end.EM
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Posted - October 30 2002 : 7:46:33 PM
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Aye Captain, I'll be sure the boys will be ready for you, upon your arrival at Ft. Bedford this weekend. This time we'll have Pte. "Big Ian" Mac Intyre to lead the company in song...
...And its all for me grog,
me jolly, jolly grog
all gone fore beer and tobacco,
for I spent all me tin,
with the lassies drinkin' gin
across the western ocean, I must wander
And I'm sick in me head
and I 'aven't been to bed
since I first came to shore with me plunder,
for I spent all me loot
in the house of ill repute,
and I think I'm going back again tommorow
and its all for me grog,
me jolly, jolly grog...
Your Humble Servant,
Sgt. Duncan Munro
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Posted - November 29 2002 : 4:42:26 PM
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Esteemed Liste:
I assume that the actual site of Grant's Defeat has been as thoroughly obliterated as the site of Braddock's defeat.
Is it even possible to identify the site today?
Your Servant,
D. MacLaren, Pvt.
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Highlander
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Posted - February 08 2003 : 03:58:22 AM
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The Allegheny County Courthouse now stands where the hill once was.The front doors are where the basement used to be.The same goes for the Frick Bldg. across the street and would have extended to where Kaufman's Dept.Store adjoins it(one of Maj.Grant's Highlanders is said to haunt the 10th floor where the hill would have been).Hogg's Pond would have been right after Kaufman's and flowed into the Monongahela River.This is around one half mile to the Point where Capt.MacDonald's Coy.would have marched almost to the gates of Ft.Duquesne and fought a small European style battle in the open terrain(in ranks and close order using volley-fire)until they were forced to withdraw.
There is nothing in the Ft.Pitt Museum to let one know that a battle took place here. There is a DAR plaque on the side of the Courthouse that gives a brief account of the battle and a mural painted on a wall inside.It is my goal to get a blue P.H.M.C historic marker out front eventually,much like there is one to mark Capt.Bullet's 1759 Defeat outside of Ligonier. |
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