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richfed
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Posted - October 30 2005 :  08:02:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Happy End of Daylight Savings Time, All!

Well, here's a rather thought-provoking E-mail I received - complete with permission to use it! Your thoughts on its content would be appreciated ...

That music, and your site, are addictive; gotta gotta have it.

Can I buy LOTM soundtrack CD from your site? Would prefer to if possible, Amazon.com's prosperous enough. Interesting that the melody you repeat on your home page is similar to central European folk music I used to hear in some down-and-out ethnic bars in Milwaukee in younger years, esp. the music played with what they called "tambouritsa's".
Tough neighborhood, but cool music and people cool if they saw respect.
Much like the American Indian neighborhood about a half mile south except they drank more than played music. Given their history, small wonder.

The name "LAST of the Mohicans" is so wrong, and "Lasting of the Mohicans" is better but for the wrong reason. And how was it that both the Mohegans, not one of the Six Nations, and the Mohawk, the first of the Iroquois Six Nations, had been enemies for so long that the Mohawk had greatly reduced the Mohegans in all ways, were allies--about the only Indian allies, except for the Leni Lenape occasionally--of the rebel colonials? Too bad that's not mentioned in your Mohican history, nor the relocation to WI and the course of that--neither of which the vast majority of Wisconsinites (all three of us) are aware of.

The whole Stockbridge Mohegan settlement was "removed" by the U.S. gov from the Berkshire Mountains in western MA to WI in the 1800's, where they've been since. The Mohegans, many of them, survive, although regrettably perhaps not thrive so well as one might wish, on the shore of Lake Winnebago, a large lake (~35 miles high, ~10 miles wide) fed by a confluence of the Fox and Wolf Rivers and drained by the Fox into Green Bay. Good walleye waters, all. In a visit back to Stockbridge about ten years ago, some of the Mohegans said they recognized the place as their former home from oral tradition passed on in Wisconsin.
Impressed me, all right. They mentioned especially a curve in the river at Stockbridge, a description of which had been held important and stayed with them.

Having jacked myself up by writing the above, I think I'll talk with Milwaukee's major newspaper re researching and reporting on a complete history of Mohegans in Wisconsin, respecting their wishes, if any, in the matter. Might make a credible addition to your site. Actually, so might portions of this email, edited in some areas. Use it if you want, no permissions required; rather, permission is hereby granted over the date and signature (not electronic, I've not learned yet how to do that) herein and herewith.

I'm sorry to see that you've opened up your site to include all things frontier. Dissipates the original scope and intention of your site, which was a special thing in and of itself. Another site could have been opened to cover all things frontier; e.g., Northwest Territories, in which I reside; Ohio River, KY and TN and MI and WI; i.e., the "Illinois Country". Interesting in and of itself, but I fear will excessively dilute not just content of LOTM novel and movie, but also the rich history surrounding the events on Lake George and adjacent areas. Those are a distinct and discrete portion of frontier history, and need not be lumped with others; e.g., the Ohio River, except perhaps for Braddock's event on the Monongahela just upstream from its confluence with the Ohio at Fort Pitt.

"But I digress".


And, yes, the soundtrack[s] is[are] available through this site - although Amazon will still get the bulk of the profit. Please see our Frontier Bookstore to purchase that and many other related items. Hey, Christmas Time's a-Comin'!

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Posted - October 30 2005 :  2:18:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Hi Rich,

Before I put any of the email on your site, I'd be sure and research this person's facts. I didn't notice a signature, so can't rely that hisher facts are correct. What he/she wrote was definitely interesting and adding it to the site could be worth some trouble.

As for putting much of your non-LOTM information on another site, wouldn't that cost lots of $$$. It's costly enough keeping one site running. Or, if you have two smaller sites rather than one large one, would it be less expensive (doesn't seem like it ought to, but you never know).

And I did update my profile. Thanks for the info.

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Posted - October 30 2005 :  2:57:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply


Speaking for myself, I kind of enjoy the scope and variety in the website. There's something here for everyone. I am always amazed at the variety of interests/hobbies of the people in Mohicanland, and it's fascinating how one discussion will lead to something else.

Yes, we digress...alot!
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Posted - October 31 2005 :  11:43:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I definitely enjoy the scope and variety of this site! In fact, something occured to me recently. Without this site and these boards... I would not be doing what I am doing right now: entering into a wonderful new "hobby."

So........ Thanks, Rich!

"It is more deeply stirring to my blood than any imaginings could possibly have been."
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Posted - October 31 2005 :  3:48:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
As someone who's "kinda new" - it's my thought that the smaller the content is restricted to, the smaller the "interested parties" will be. Personally, I like the board just the way it is. BTW, thanks for the board, - a great job.

you can keep "The Change"
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Posted - October 31 2005 :  9:40:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Hello Rich,

Sorry to have gotten some of your readers going, I was trying too hard to be brief in my email.

Your site LOTM is terrific and I like it a lot. The second paragraph, I think it is without backing out of this page which erases it, in your "Purpose" statement re "all things frontier" concerns me because the site is very much LOTM (duh! that IS the name!) and F&I war, which took place mainly in New England, PA, and central and upstate NY. If you suddenly start getting all kinds of stuff on Illinois country, NW Territory, Ohio R., Kentucky, Tennessee, St. Louis, Missouri R., New Orleans, Daniel Boone, Davy Crockett, Rocky Mtns., Seattle, California, New Mexico, etc., though, I'd be afraid it'd dilute the present focus on the F&I War and LOTM book and movie--and that's all I meant. If your other subscribers want all that somewhat extraneous stuff included, and if you agree as you apparently do, that's certainly your prerogative and may God bless your efforts. I just meant that I, for one, like the original and present site and its focus as they are and hope that I don't open your site some day and hear the 1950's TV tune "Davy Crockett" or cuts from John Wayne's "The Alamo".

I did a little research in the meantime, and found that the Stockbridge Mohicans moved to Wisconsin with a band of Munsee of the Lenee Lenape, or Delaware, nation in about 1834. At that time, I read, Chicago had about 50 residents, and Wisconsin was essentially wilderness with some widely scattered settlers and a few forts, though it was just about to experience a boom in settlement and founding of towns and cities.

Also, I find I was wrong in referring to them as "Mohegans", the similarity in the names "Mohegan" and variations of "Mohican" being merely coincidental--they were, and are, separate and distinct tribes with some, but by no means complete, overlap in their languages. Mohegans were, I'm told, very generally located in and around Connecticut while Mohicans were generally west of them on and near the Hudson river. Sorry 'bout that, but JF Cooper made the same error in his novel LOTM.

If there're any members of the Mohican or Mohegan tribes reading this, I for one would certainly like to see your takes on the above and would appreciate any corrections or additions you may care to offer, whether from oral tradition or any other source.

If anyone wants to see a wealth of other information on the topic, it's easily Googled with a lot of pertinant "hits" or results.

And as far as my name being omitted from my earlier email, I'm confidant that was a simple oversight as mine was being quoted in another. I'm new to the Board, I use the name "Qasimoto" (hey, it's not the worst one I've seen), and IRS knows me as Norman Muehleck of Oconomowoc, WI. 262/567-2374 or nmuehleck@wi.rr.com, if anyone wants to take issue with THIS one as well.

Norman Muehleck, LOTM "Qasimoto"
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Posted - November 01 2005 :  7:50:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Welcome to the Board, Norman!

No, I'm not going to take issue with your emails.

First, DOES the IRS know you?!!! Uh-oh...

Second, totally off-topic, Wisconsin has some of the coolest city names. Yours is great---Oconomowoc.

Third, I have a hunch, Qasimodo, that you will be an interesting and informative addition to the Board!
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THANKS, Nancy! You and a gal named "Chris" have both been most kind, and I'm grateful.

And, while I'm trying to minimize or at least camouflage any disinformation, I'll try to retain at least some level of interest--I figure every group needs a member who can be a loose cannon, a raving lunatic, and a village fool all rolled into one!

Qasimoto
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Posted - November 02 2005 :  12:00:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Wow! A loose cannon, a raving lunatic, and a village fool all rolled into one! You're gonna fit right in around here.

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quote:
Originally posted by Chris

Wow! A loose cannon, a raving lunatic, and a village fool all rolled into one! You're gonna fit right in around here.





Have to agree with Chris on this one.... LOL!

Jack McCall: "Should we shake hands or something, relieve the atmosphere. I mean how stupid do you think I am?"
Wild Bill Hickok: "I don't know, I just met you."

"A nation with no regard to it's past will have little future worth remembering."
A.Lincoln

"Enjoy the little things, for one day you may look back and realize that they were the big things"
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Posted - November 04 2005 :  4:32:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Loose cannons, village fools, and raving lunatics?! Sounds like a party to me... Not a bad thing!


p.s. Welcome Norman!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"It is the unknown we fear when looking upon death and darkness, nothing more."
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Posted - November 06 2005 :  7:56:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Thanks, Emily and Caitlin!

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Posted - November 07 2005 :  7:31:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Your welcome, Quasimoto.
I have read about this Stockbridge-Munsee Mohegans (I think that's what I read, at the my ripe old age I'm losing my memory) too. I saw several sites were it claimed they were the same people as Mohicans and others who said the complete opposite. I figured it was probably a different people considering the regions and all but, I have to admit, I was a wee bit confused.
And about the whole "dissapating the original scope" har dee har har. I don't think we can keep L.O.T.M. off the brain long enough to lead the site too far astray!
This person does sound like a sharp cookie though!
Later folks. God Bless.

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Posted - November 09 2005 :  4:52:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Dillon1836's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Awesome dance mix for the Last of the Mohicans. I often listen to dance, trance, and house music on the weekends. Great job.

Now, if only whoever did it could do one on the recent Alamo film's soundtrack... :)

~Wade

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Posted - November 12 2005 :  12:07:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Wade is, of course, absolutely right--that dance re-mix WAS terrific, I've enjoyed hearing it myself a number of times.

Too bad it wasn't signed, so whoever did it could get the credit for all that work and creativity!

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Posted - November 13 2005 :  10:05:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I was wondering if there ever would be any comments on that re-make ... I liked it, too! By the way, it was signed - I, as a matter of practice, usually delete all references as to who the E-mailer was before I post their comments.
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