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cuthron
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 Posted - September 24 2005 : 1:51:16 PM
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Who you thin are really the main character in the LOTM? I know, of course Hawkeye and Cora and their love is main plot and designed to carry on all film. But what I think, when Chingachgook starts his speech in the end, all what anybody else has done is allmost meaningless, and Uncas becomes the most important person in whole film and his destiny overcomes all what has happened.
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Light of the Moon
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Posted - September 29 2005 : 8:55:24 PM
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| I don't think Ching's speach at the end was meaningless. I think it gave a small peak at a life long forgotten. But as far as the main characters I would say the role was shared by all of them. |
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Posted - October 01 2005 : 12:57:34 PM
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| that is not what I meant actually... |
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Posted - October 01 2005 : 1:00:12 PM
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| sorry forgot to log in, but that was me in last topic |
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Light of the Moon
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Posted - December 01 2005 : 11:38:45 AM
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Oh well, leave it to me to misunderstand .
In all reality I would have loved it to be Uncas! |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - December 01 2005 : 4:14:36 PM
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| Clearly Magua, - remove his role, and what's the movie? Boooring ... |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - December 01 2005 : 5:17:52 PM
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| Boooring ...? How could the movie be boring when you get to see the French crush a British fort? Or the Huron, Ottawa, and Abenaki massacre British soldiers? Wonderful viewing even without Magua. But much better with him. |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - December 01 2005 : 6:54:00 PM
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| Mmmm, - you do have a point there I suppose. Magua just improves things , - every movie needs a heavy after all. ;) |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - December 01 2005 : 11:26:31 PM
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every movie needs a heavy after all. ;)
OK, think of it like this. The British invade his land, kill his children. He is just like Benjamin Martin in The Patriot. Fighting for revenge. The real heavies? The British. They are trespassing on French land, trampling the rights of the Colonials. Hawkeye says they would be better making their own peace with the French. Cora says that the sooner French guns blow the British out of America. . . Both of them recognize who the real heavies are. Magua? Blinded by his desire for revenge, but not the bad guy. |
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Posted - December 02 2005 : 10:31:56 AM
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| That's one way I suppose. I'm not into the pc version of things. One could also make a case that nearly everyone involved, was involved in something they're rather not be doing. The army troops of both sides were simply following orders, and would prefer to be back home, - not posted in some foreign wildneress. The indians certainly didn't invite anyone, - and the militia had only intended to defend what they had already taken. Nobility was not high on their list. While it isn't true history, - it does make a goo story. |
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Posted - December 02 2005 : 5:18:35 PM
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I think the "main" protagonist of the story is Hawkeye -- Nathaniel. But I also think there are two more, lesser protagonists in the story, with Cora being next and Chingachgook being the other.
Magua is the main antagonist of the story.
Gosh. It's been a long time since high school English Lit.  |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - December 02 2005 : 9:48:17 PM
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I think the "main" protagonist of the story is Hawkeye -- Nathaniel. But I also think there are two more, lesser protagonists in the story, with Cora being next and Chingachgook being the other.
So where does that leave Uncas? The love interest that gets killed off? Uncas and Alice = Romeo and Juliette?
It seems that if there is a happy ending, people don't seem to like the story as well. If someone they like gets killed off, then it becomes great. Just imagine if Romeo and Juliette had eloped to Naples. No story. I guess it goes back to the whole Greek Tragedy thing. |
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Posted - December 03 2005 : 01:08:43 AM
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Actually, Fitz, I much prefer happy endings! Never did care for the Romeo and Juliette story.
Speaking about the literary structure of the story, as to who the protagonists are, I do not think Uncas's character is a main one. He and Alice are lesser characters. Ching is a protagonist because he became "The Last of the Mohicans." But the story revolves around Nathaniel and Cora (at least in the movie version).
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - December 04 2005 : 2:26:12 PM
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Hummm.... I think, from what some people post, the story is about Uncas, and everyone else is just a supporting cast member  |
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Posted - December 05 2005 : 10:03:34 PM
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Is Hawkeye and Cora!!!!, the history is about them, in the cover of the dvd, vhs, wallpaper, soundtrack..., etc., is Hawkeye or both of them. We can love more another character, but those two are the principals.
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Posted - December 27 2005 : 10:32:33 AM
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Originally posted by Fitzhugh Williams
Boooring ...? How could the movie be boring when you get to see the French crush a British fort? Or the Huron, Ottawa, and Abenaki massacre British soldiers? Wonderful viewing even without Magua. But much better with him.
The french and the english True.
But the massacre I don't think would have occurred without Magua's leadership. He was a war leader and carried much power among the natives, so says Cl. Monroe. |
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Posted - December 27 2005 : 10:36:09 AM
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every movie needs a heavy after all. ;)
OK, think of it like this. The British invade his land, kill his children. He is just like Benjamin Martin in The Patriot. Fighting for revenge. The real heavies? The British. They are trespassing on French land, trampling the rights of the Colonials. Hawkeye says they would be better making their own peace with the French. Cora says that the sooner French guns blow the British out of America. . . Both of them recognize who the real heavies are. Magua? Blinded by his desire for revenge, but not the bad guy.
I agree. Magua has every right to revenge his loss but to go to the extreme of wanting to kill two innocent girls for the actions of their father is a bit overboard. |
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Posted - December 27 2005 : 10:38:13 AM
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Sorry y'all. The above two posts are mine! I forgot to sign in . |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - December 27 2005 : 4:17:51 PM
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Magua has every right to revenge his loss but to go to the extreme of wanting to kill two innocent girls for the actions of their father is a bit overboard.
Magua says that his "children were killed by the English", which seems to indicate that he had at least two that were killed. It would have been his right to kill an equal number from Monro's clan, or better yet, from Monro's own family. The problem is that he lets his pursuit of justice get in the way of his political aspirations. He fails to see the bigger picture. |
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My opinion is that everyone is important in the movie.. remove one of the roles.. and than.. It just wouldn't been complete. That's what I think. If I have to choose someone, I'd choose Magua, but my favorite is deffinitly Uncas.. like most of us.. :)
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Posted - January 09 2006 : 12:30:13 PM
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Magua has every right to revenge his loss but to go to the extreme of wanting to kill two innocent girls for the actions of their father is a bit overboard.
Magua says that his "children were killed by the English", which seems to indicate that he had at least two that were killed. It would have been his right to kill an equal number from Monro's clan, or better yet, from Monro's own family. The problem is that he lets his pursuit of justice get in the way of his political aspirations. He fails to see the bigger picture.
Nah! I would have settled for killing the man who did it, not his children. But I see the logic. |
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Posted - February 08 2006 : 1:21:26 PM
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OK, I could say that it was Hawkeye and Cora or Uncas and Alice, however....
I think that a major character is the landscape. The hill of the fort, the field of the massacre, the river, the cliffs, the waterfall, etc. Each one of those places made the scenes what they are. Who can look at a cliff the same way? (Or, better yet, who wouldn't want to be held by Uncas under a waterfall??)
Sorry, cheesy I know, but I had to post! |
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| Besides the obvious Hawkeye and Cora there is also Uncas and Chingachkook. Magua is also a main character. Uncas was the strong silent type in this movie and he brought a lot to it. Eric probably never thought his character would have the effect it has on all of us over the years. His death scene on the cliff at the end is very sad and memorable. I wish he did not have to die but the movie would not have had the same effect had he lived. His handsome face was well cast in this movie. I could not imagine any other Indian actor portraying Uncas as well as Eric did. |
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I would have to say that the music is the main character. I can't imagine the movie with out it. And Yankee...I for one wouldn't want to be held by Uncas under the waterfall. Now Cora, that's a different story  . |
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