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Posted - June 21 2005 :  11:56:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit mountainheart's Homepage  Send mountainheart a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Could it be that we've discussed everything to be discussed? Well, I'm curious. What circumstance led you to watch LOTM and were you surprised by your response?

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Mountainheart,

Fun question. I have a close friend who lives in Asheville. Six years ago I visited her, and we spent the day at Chimney Rock Park. We saw the LOTM photos in the gift shop and were very enthused about going back to Asheville to rent the movie and watch it that evening. I had seen the movie a couple years after it was at the theater - when my son told me how good it was after he saw it in school. I loved the movie, but didn't see it again until the day of the CRP visit. I accidentally found Rich & Elaine's website when I took an internet class that same month. I entered "Last of the Mohicans", and WOW!!! I bought Rich's book, made another trip to NC a month later, and visited as many of the sites as I had time to visit. Linville, Lake James, Pisgah Forest, Table Rock...I think the beautiful places have always been the strongest draw for me. Of course, all those other reasons play into the attraction, too - love of history, great story, great actors/actresses, and of course, the GATHERINGS AND ALL THOSE LOVELY PEOPLE I HAVE MET!

I'm sure you'll get some other fun stories of how folks found the movie.

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Wow, this is an awesome topic, thanks for bringing it up! I'm excited to tell ya all my story. I remember it like it was yesterday....lol. Well, I must have been seven or eight years old at the time. I was in my room when I heard my father call to me "Nora, come out here, you have to watch this movie." I remember coming out into the living room, sitting on the couch, and within MINUTES I was totally and utterly in awe of that movie!! I was young, yes, but even then, I knew that there was just something about this movie that was just so awesome! My favorite even back then, was Uncas...I really believe that he was my first celebrity crush! lol. Anyways...my dad hinted around to me that one of the three Native Americans was going to die. I was like "It's not that one, is it dad?" As I pointed to Uncas. My dad just gave me a look and said "wait and see." The last twenty minutes of the film came. Duncan was sacrificing himself for Cora and Uncas was running off to save Alice as the others followed. Then, the famous cliff scene began. I remember sitting there thinking "Uncas can't die, he won't, there's no way." Then, Magua slashed his stomach followed by the heartwrenching looks Alice and Uncas exchange. I remember sitting there and I could have sworn my heart stopped. A huge lump formed in my throat as I came to the realization that Uncas was the one Native American that was going to die. As I saw Magua carelessly throw Uncas' body off the cliffs, I remember at that moment I started to quietly cry to myself. I think that The Last of the Mohicans, was the first movie that ever made me cry, so I knew that the movie was specical. Then, I saw Alice. She was stepping to the edge and looking down at Uncas' body. I knew she was going to end her life. I saw the calmness in her eyes and I couldn't take it. I began to cry more openly. I remember thinking "what a beautiful way to die." My dad noticed my crying and he said "Doesn't this movie make you sad?" I nodded and said "Yes" quietly. After the movie ended, I remember feeling extremely affected and haunted by the movie...in the best way possible! That movie was immediatly my favorite movie! I was young and I would see many more movies, but I knew that none of them would even compare to that one. Time went by, but the ending of that movie stuck with me and I would honestly think about it everyday. Then, a little over one year ago, on a rainy day...I was looking through all of our movies when, at the bottom of the stack, I saw The Last of the Mohicans. My heart jumped as memories of the movie poured through my head! I jumped up and put the VHS into the VCR. I watched it and loved it even more the second time...the ending just as powerful, and when the movie was over, I felt just as affected as I did six years ago, the first time I saw it! I love that movie so much I can't even explain it and it will always be a part of me!

Thanks for the awesome topic!

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For me, it started in the 70's when I was growing up in New Zealand, and they showed the BBC version of LOTM, I got so involved it in that I couldn't wait to get home from school to watch each episode! This was in 1979. In fact, each time I hear the song from the Bee Gees "Love you Inside and Out" I think of this, as that was the number 1 song playing when I watched the series.

Growing up in NZ, I was always interested in colonial history (my first desire in those days was to be an archaeologist). In fact I remember our teacher asking us what we wanted to be when we grew up, and the boys said "fire-fighter" and the girls "airline hostess" and I had to be different and say archaeologist!

This basis of interest grew when I saw the film "Zulu" with Michael Caine, and as they say, I never looked back...I began an enjoyment of British Colonial history and all the battles, which lead me to the 1st American Civil war (as I prefer to call it) or the American Revolution. I liked the uniforms, the people, the age and the stories that came with it all, and I tried to read LOTM but I admit it floored me a bit.

Then, in the early 90's when they had the latest version of LOTM out, I had to go and see it (a friend recommended me to it) and since then I have watched it many times on video. I love the camera work, the soundtrack, and the brilliant actors.

I confess the only problem I ever had with the movie is the way they portray British soldiers as pretty dumb when it comes to hand-to-hand combat. I imagine that many of the British soldiers, from inner cities or the country would have been handy at fighting and with a knife, and not just stand there waiting to be killed! After all, the bayonet was the British weapon of choice for 200 years. So the soldiers themselves must have been pretty well-trained in hand to hand fighting. Maybe some of the re-enactors here can advise me on this!

I'll shut up for now, I only registered today, but I wanted to say "hi" to everyone, and hope to be back soon to chuck my tuppence in!

Take care guys,

Phil
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Posted - June 22 2005 :  3:25:30 PM  Show Profile  Send chasis_22 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Let's see my first viewing ever was when my father was stationed at Ft Meade Maryland so I was around 13 or 14 yrs old. Back then my oldest sister was my idol so I was always following her around and trying to spend time with her. We were all waiting on my mum to finish making dinner so I went looking for my sister. I found her sitting at the end of my parents bed watching a movie. She told me that I couldn't watch the movie with her because she didn't know if it was a graphic movie or not. I promised her that I would cover my eyes during any bad scenes so she let me sit with her and watch the movie. I had aleady missed the beginning of the movie so I started watching it from the part where they are in the burial ground. I saw Uncas and was hooked. My sister was in love with DDL so I always figured she could have Hawkeye and I would have Uncas! As the movie progressed we had completely forgotten about dinner and were sitting as close as we could to the edge of the bed! Just as Uncas started after Magua my mum walked in and said to turn the tv off because dinner was ready. We begged her to let us watch the last little bit and at first she said no....but then she said we had 10 minutes to get to the table or else! So we timed ourselves as we watched Uncas' death scene. I was so upset that I went to dinner crying. My sister was also a little red in the eye but she will never admit to having cried! I couldn't stop thinking about that movie all through dinner. I was dying to know what I had missed in the beginning. Right after we finished dishes my father had flipped the channels and there it was! The movie was showing a second time! I begged him to let us watch it again. He agreed and actually sat with us and watched most of it....but he had to miss the ending as he had to report for duty. After that night my sister bought the movie and soundtrack and made me a copy of the music. I played the copied tape on my walkman ever night and fell asleep to the music. My mum finally saw the movie and said that it was too graphic for me and told me that I wasn't allowed to watch it again. I was crushed! A week later my sister gave me 2 tapes and insisted that I listen to them that night. As I layed down to go to bed I put the tapes in and was excited to find that my sister had put a tape recorder by the tv and recorded the movie for me. She told me not to tell mum that she had recorded the movie for me so we had our own little secret! Eventually my mum gave up and allowed me to watch it again. And I have watched it every chance I have gotten from that point on!
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I saw it in the theater when it first came out. It instantly became my favorite movie, and still is after all these years. Later that year I read Kenneth Roberts' "Northwest Passage" and then J.F. Cooper's "The Last of the Mohicans" with N.C. Wyeth's illustrations. The movie along with those two books are what really sparked my interest in the F&I War.

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Girl Scout Camp...yep, you heard me. I was my daughter's scout leader and we were at a Council-wide Camp at Camp Cottaquilla in Anniston, Alabama. One of the people that we brought in was a young man from Montgomery who had studied the American Indian and lived as close to the way they lived as possible. He brought all of his "things" to camp and taught all of us so much about the American Indian way of life. In conversation, he told me that he had been called in as a consultant...for make-up, I believe...for the remake of LOTM. When the movie came out in October of 1992, we went to see it...mainly, I'm ashamed to say, to see his name in the credits. WOW! Was I surprised at the impact the movie would have on me. I fell in love with it and have been an avid fan ever since.

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My hubby was a fan of the movie and talked me into watching it. I was captivated and became especially interested in the person behind the character Magua. I had just moved to a new town and didn't know anyone, so I spent lots of time on the net learning about the movie. I found Rich's interview on this site and appreciated the fact that Wes was not just another shallow, self-absorbed actor. I found an email group called the "Studigroup", and with much fear and trepidation as to what kind of nutcases I would find there (me being a shy girl who had been warned of the dangers of the internet!!), I asked to join. Funny how joining that group would lead to the priviledge of working with "the man" himself when the original prez resigned. Yes, life takes some unpredictable turns!! I've made lots of friends here for whom I am grateful!!
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I was living here in western NC when they were filming it, but was in my senior year of college and also working full time so I didn't have time to pay much attention to the filming. I was aware of it, though, and couldn't wait for it to hit the big screen. It is the only movie I have returned to the theater over and over to see. I would drag along whoever would come with me, although not everyone was as enthusiastic as I was.
So, I loved the movie but it slipped into the background as life went on, then one day I happened to catch it on cable tv. WOW it all came back! By then, I had the internet, and I did a search for Last of the Mohicans and found Rich's site. And the rest, as they say, is history! When I found the site, the group was recovering from a recent Gathering so I had to wait an agonizing year to meet everyone, but it was all worth it. Yes, like Carter said, life takes unpredictable turns, this one was for the better!
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P.S. to Carter: you? shy? when? hehehh
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One Sunday afternoon, I was just channel surfing, wanting to find a good movie. I happened to catch LOTM just coming on TBS and I decided to watch it. I was amazed how wonderfully done the movie was. I wanted to know more about it, so I got online and found Rich's website. I also found the Studigroup at the same time because I wanted to learn more about the actor that portrayed Magua. I'm not sure what year it was, but I think that it was 1997. I only posted a few times waaaaaay back when I first found this site, and eventually I spent most of my time with the Studigroup, but about three years ago, I decided to come back to this site and I am so glad that I did, or else I may have missed last years Gathering and meeting alot of wonderful people!!!

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P.S. to Carter: you? shy? when? hehehh





I take it your experience with me led you to another conclusion? Har har! I really appreciate Theresa for taking me along and helping me to feel so welcome! I really love her even if she is a Bama fan! And I loved your Magua stationary!

BTW, since you are Wes' number one fan you'll be interested to know that we are about to debut a NEW website for him complete with never seen before pics! I'll let ya know when it's ready!
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I really appreciate Theresa for taking me along and helping me to feel so welcome! I really love her even if she is a Bama fan!


Hey Carter!!
It might interest you to know I'm about to get a new daughter-in-law in August who is an Auburn grad... *note to self...get a good jump on those grandkids when they arrive*

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Posted - June 24 2005 :  9:01:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit Dark Woods's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I came to the Mohican Board during research on Jane McCrea. From reading the Board, I decided to view the LOTM movie on VHS! I guess my path was backwards to most others.

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MountainHeart,
Yes, this has been discussed a LONG TIME ago on this board; but it has always been a really great question, and one that is great to bring up. Way, WAY back when, when this film was released, I was too busy with three little boys, the youngest of which, born in 1990, used to make it his mission to escape from the house whenever he could. This started when he was 6 months and crawled out the front door and out to the street to follow me as I left (dad thought he was safe inside); to running out the door and up the street as a toddler if I left the door unlocked - and I'd run after him - several people mentioned to me: gee; you run a lot just like that guy in that movie; (HA! If I could be so graceful running as well as DDL) so to make a story short here - the hubby - as he did for those years - bought home a rental movie for ME to watch saying it is something he know I'd like to see; he knows me well; I was swept well away; and re-rented it several more times.....the rest is history in this house; my kids have grown up to the sound track in the car and the movie being played so much in the house they've had their own joke routine about it: (A SWEETSER movie!!!) (those who've been to the Gatherings can a bit relate...)...but there it is...the first site I searched for ...well, maybe the third...was for the Last of the Mohicans back in the new days on the internet...flaming flames I saw!!!
another story.
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My story, not that most of you don't already know, can be found at: A Shoney's Morning Oh, and it's in the book!
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My story, not that most of you don't already know, can be found at: A Shoney's Morning Oh, and it's in the book!

Rich,
Speaking of "The book", I finally ordered a copy the other day. I can't wait till it gets here. Do they come autographed by the author? If not, I will make sure to bring it to the next gathering and have you sign it.

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I couldn’t sleep and was watching satellite late one night when they were showing LOTM. I fell in love with it immediately and proceeded to watch it every time they reran it! The history, the incredible scenery the love story, and the beautiful music - and yes, I admit... Eric Schweig ...it all was breathtaking! When I finally got a computer, one of the first things I did was look for information on the movie and where they did the filming. Found Rich & Elaine's fantastic site and like Jo said, "the rest is history" in our house as well - we own 2 VHS, the DVD and 2 soundtracks... one is a permanent fixture in the car!
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ooops, forgot to sign in.. that was me, Caitlin

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At the time I was a senior in high school and was dating a real hottie that strongly resembled Nathaniel!
I fell completely in love with the movie.
Unfortunately, the boyfriend did last long. He may have looked like him but he definately wasn't the man Nathaniel was!
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I came to the Mohican Board during research on Jane McCrea.

Me too!

I had just gone to the 225th Anniversary Re-enactment of the Battle of Saratoga, in October of 2002 and was interested in finding out more about Jane. I lurked for a few weeks... looking for those "kooks" Carter was talking about. I realized that the Theresa who was posting here was probably the same Theresa I had already met on the Sara Donati Yahoo list, and since she didn't seem to be a kook , I joined in.

As for the movie, I didn't see it in the theater when it came out, but on a whim I purchased the video several years later. That's all it took! One viewing and I was hooked forever.

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Hello everyone. I've been absent for awhile. I like this topic though--When LOTM first came out, it did not interest me in the least. However, one day I checked out the VHS from our local library and wol-la! It was love at first sight. I then began surfing the net to learn more about the actor who played Uncas--none other than the beloved Eric Schweig. I later discover this site and the wonderful people who congregate here and have since purchased the movie on VHS, DVD, the soundtrack and the tape and we all lived happily ever after

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In the summer of 1992 the New York Times Sunday magazine had a long article on DDL (probably in anticipation of the upcoming release of LOTM). The article was accompanied by a number of photos, including one of DDL as Hawkeye, holding Killdeer. I took one look at the photo and fell madly in love with . . . the rifle! I was already familiar with flintlock rifles, as any Friend of Seamus would be, and thought (still do) they were among the most beautiful objects ever created by the hand of man. I know some on this Board have criticized Killdeer as inauthentic for the time and circumstances, and I don't dispute that conclusion -- I just thought it had a beautiful stock and lovely flowing lines. I was even more impressed when Seamus told me that the barrel for the rifle had been made right in my hometown. Anyway, when I showed my husband the photo he said, "That IS a beautiful rifle," and so we were in the theater on Saturday night of opening weekend. A portion of the audience (myself included, of course) applauded at the end -- I don't think I've seen that happen since.

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Originally posted by Bookworm

In the summer of 1992 the New York Times Sunday magazine had a long article on DDL (probably in anticipation of the upcoming release of LOTM). The article was accompanied by a number of photos, including one of DDL as Hawkeye, holding Killdeer. I took one look at the photo and fell madly in love with . . . the rifle! I was already familiar with flintlock rifles, as any Friend of Seamus would be, and thought (still do) they were among the most beautiful objects ever created by the hand of man. I know some on this Board have criticized Killdeer as inauthentic for the time and circumstances, and I don't dispute that conclusion -- I just thought it had a beautiful stock and lovely flowing lines. I was even more impressed when Seamus told me that the barrel for the rifle had been made right in my hometown. Anyway, when I showed my husband the photo he said, "That IS a beautiful rifle," and so we were in the theater on Saturday night of opening weekend. A portion of the audience (myself included, of course) applauded at the end -- I don't think I've seen that happen since.



A little, FYI, regarding Bookworm's hometown of Carlisle, PA, for those of you watching "Into The West" the you might appreciate the historical significance. They had opened a boarding school for Native Indian children to help facilitate their assimilation into society.

www.dumontbooks.com/catalogue/0078/pamphlets/

scroll towards the bottom of the page...

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I didn't "clear this up any," I'm afraid! Carlisle, PA, is where I live now, and a "historic old frontier town" it is, as you can learn from the historical markers or the MacWilliam Chronicles. While driving around on errands I often go past the graves of the students who died while attending the Carlisle Indian School; the cemetery is located on the grounds of the Army War College. The Cumberland County Historical Society has published an impressive book on the history of the school.

However, my hometown (where I grew up) is Beavertown, PA, a tiny dot on the map that is known for only one thing (and only in muzzleloading circles, at that) -- the Getz Muzzleloading Barrel Company. It's my understanding (and perhaps our experts can weigh in on this) that their barrels are the best there are.

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I was 12 when I went to see LOTM in a movie theater. My parents took me, so I really didn't have much of a choice in what we saw. The weird thing was, I had watched lots of movies, but LOTM was the first movie that actually got to me. Sometimes when you see a movie, you kind of forget about it as soon as it's over, even if it's a good movie.

LOTM was the first movie that actually stuck with me. I don't know if it was the violence or the story or whatever, but I remember I kept thinking about that movie for months after I had watched it.

There have been others, like the whole Lord of the Rings trilogy. I'm sure you know what I mean, even if I'm doing a crappy job describing it. There's just something about some movies that sticks with you and LOTM was the first movie that "stuck with me".

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Posted - September 06 2005 :  6:53:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
My dad was watching this movie when I was about, uh, 9 I guess. He is always watching something about a war. Anyhow, I had always loved history, and for some reason, after just a few minutes, I became curious, so I just plopped down beside him on the floor and watched the movie. Afterward, Dad goes "So, what do you think of that movie? Pretty cool, huh?" I still sat there, running through the movie in my head, (I didn't really understand all of it,) and he just grinned, and the next night when he came home, we watched it again, and again, and again. I don't watch it so frequently now, but know that I understand it, I don't think I've gone longer than a month without watching it. It's not an obsession. Really......I can quit any time I want..............
ha ha ha ha ha. Doubt it.

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