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Wilderness Woman	Posted - January 25 2003 : 12:10:24 PM Rich, For the past several days I have been getting an error message down in the lower left tray, when the Mohicanpress home page loads. It gives the yellow triangle with exclamation point, and says "Done, but with errors on page." This happens on both my computer at home and at work, and I don't remember it happening until just this past week. I'm not a computer "teckie", so I have no idea what this means. Is there something I need to or can do to resolve this? Thanks. WW
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richfed	Posted - March 02 2003 : 06:55:46 AM Found it, at last. Resorted to downloading a free syntax checker. Couldn't find anything wrong with my code because there wasn't anything wrong with my code! Turned out that the counter we had on the front page was kaput! Apparently, the outfit that provided it discontinued the service, and that was causing the error. Would've been nice if they had informed me! I hadn't even missed it!!! So, I toyed with the idea of installing a new one, but decided against it. It had reached something like 2,300,000, or somewhere around there ... it wasn't even accurate, as it caught only visitors to that page, so, who needs it? No more error message, though, as I've removed that bit of code. One mystery solved!
richfed	Posted - February 03 2003 : 04:57:14 AM As of this AM, at least, the error message is gone. Go figure. I didn't do a thing! Darn computers ... ----> 5:30 AM EDIT: ... and now it's back!!!! That's it! I'm never looking again! ^$%#%$$#@$
richfed	Posted - January 28 2003 : 05:35:46 AM quote: Originally posted by Ilse The only thing I can think of is your link to the recent topics on the board, because that's quite a complicated one. Nope, not that, though it would seem a likely culprit. I have that code running on several pages with no ill effect. It's gotta be something really simple, as it has no apparent affect on the page.
Scott Bubar	Posted - January 27 2003 : 7:30:11 PM Yes, I confess. I'm the lurking Huron. I must not have been logged in (for some reason, I was permanently logged in before and got used to not checking). I'm not complaining either, the situation is a lot better than back in the "Duelling Banjos" days. I notice the load time was 1.77 seconds this evening. This is forever to someone with a cable connection! Guess I'm spoiled! I'll still be curious as to what does it though. Funny thing about bulletin board personalities. Another forum I frequent (Sword Forum), every other person is an IT specialist of some sort, many of them currently unemployed unfortunately. This seems to be a low-tech board. I used to know everything about my computer. But that was when I had a Mac.
Ilse	Posted - January 27 2003 : 5:13:17 PM Yeah, I took a quick look at your source code and didn't see anything strange at that place either So I looked up exactly what is "syntax error" and found this: Syntax Error Syntax is the order in which words and phrases are put together, such as a URL (web address) which consists of several phrases that are strung together to define a location or service on the Internet. A syntax error occurs when a user (or programmer) has put words in an order that a program does not understand. A syntax error while surfing the Web may be caused by a mistyped or inadvertently rearranged URL, making it incomprehensible to a web browser. The only thing I can think of is your link to the recent topics on the board, because that's quite a complicated one. Anyway, to cheer you up! The website I built for my school project gives me no less than 8 of such errors (all relating to the javascript section). It's still working, though Well, this stuff is coming up further along in my classes. When I've found the secret, you're the first to know!
richfed	Posted - January 27 2003 : 1:18:32 PM Learn something every day! Thanks, Ilse, I never knew clicking on those produced a message! Alas, didn't help ... nothing wrong with line 4, character 1, that I can see ... I'll have to go through it with a fine-toothed comb one of these days. It's recent, I'm fairly certain! But, like you say, it's not affecting anything, so ...
Ilse	Posted - January 27 2003 : 10:57:01 AM Rich, The little error icon is a syntax error. You can get details by doubleclicking it (what line and character). The error doesn't seem to have an effect on the page, though, so I don't think it's very vital. Ilse
Wilderness Woman	Posted - January 27 2003 : 09:16:46 AM Thanks Rich. Yeah, I did know that Windows is the cause of most freeze-ups, and unfortunately, my Compaq does it much more than my PC at work. Sigh. Guess there's nothing to be done, short of getting rid of the Compaq, which I can't do just yet. Thanks again for your help!
richfed	Posted - January 27 2003 : 06:01:04 AM quote: Originally posted by Anthony this is the SLOWEST BB ever and it Keeps on locking on me/us @ times when on here..................why? :( a frustrated, no i get sex, but in re: to this server i meant, actualley.hehehehe...Grrrrrrrrrr..........., let us KNOW , why so SLooooooooooooooow.....ASAP!..anth First of all, let me say dear Anth, that the Barney avatar is most definitely the real you! Seeing that pic next to your posts almost makes me feel like we're back at Record World in the '70s - I don't know why, but it really does! Anyway, the issue of "slowness" ... Someone E-mailed me about this recently. It's not the bulletin board - Snitz makes one of the fastest ones around. NOW, that said, I have slowed it down by adding scripts like the music, the scrolling welcome, and most importantly, the History Channel box. Those things do slow it down a bit. Down at the bottom of every page,you can see how long the page is taking to build on the server ... most always, it's under 3 seconds - though the default page - the one with the scripts, may take longer sometimes, as will long threads. The slowness, if you are experiencing that, most always comes from Internet traffic, etc. between you & the server in Ohio. For me, I don't find it slow - on occasion, but not as a regular thing. I use a nearly 5-year old, 300 mhz computer with a dial-up connection, so my system is far from top-of-the-line, yet it normally works fine for me. You want slow? For me it's the ESPN site! I could take off the IP logging, as I've yet to have to use it - no troublemakers, so far. That might speed it up a bit. As far as freezing up, Wilderness Woman & Scott [? - Lurking Huron???] ... I experience THAT all too frequently! It doesn't matter what I'm doing ... I'm rebooting several times a day. W-I-N-D-O-W-S. That simple. Very unstable. Maybe XP is better? I use 98. I don't have enough space to install XP. I've just learned to live with it. It's not the board's doing ... the software is A-OK!
Wilderness Woman	Posted - January 26 2003 : 7:46:30 PM I'm sorry, Rich. I didn't mean to confuse the issue. I think that Scott and I were talking about the same problem, and he added a second one. The yellow triangle error icon appears on the "On the Trail..." home page. Then, regarding the music on the Mohican Board... on my computer at home, I get the "dueling soundtracks" problem that you mentioned. (Love the description!) But I don't have that problem on my at-work computer. I figured that it was two programs competing, so I've just been turning off my speakers at home so it won't make me crazy. I have changed the settings that you suggested, and hopefully that will help with that problem. Now, Anthony brought up the problem of slowness... which I can easily live with (it forces me to be patient!). But my home computer locks/freezes up at least once every time I am on the boards. I'm thinking this may be another setting that could be changed, because I don't have that problem at work. Also, I have a Compaq at home, and I have learned that this is a problem with them regardless. Any help that anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated! So, if you aren't worried about the error icon... neither am I! Thanks so much for your help! WW
Lurking Huron4494	Posted - January 26 2003 : 6:23:19 PM quote: Originally posted by richfed On my system, I fixed it by playing around with the security settings in Internet Options. Here are my settings on IE6: Go to Tools ----> Internet Options ----> Security ----> Custom Settings. The Active X section comes first, & I've got the following buttons selected, in this order: Prompt - Disable - Disable - Enable - Enable. That did it for me ... There may be other solutions. I did much the same thing, but perhaps with more prompts. (By the way, disabling download of files is a really good idea--there are malicious sites that will trick you into downloading stuff you aren't even aware of, but that's another issue.) Unfortunately the prompts are a nuisance, here and elsewhere, at the main board page still loads slowly, but at least it doesn't freeze. If I unthinkingly hit the "yes" button when the active-x prompt comes up, things crawl for a bit, then I get a window prompting me to download 'needed software' or plug-ins, or something of the sort for Quicktime. I love the Mac, but Quicktime is very slow, at least on a PC.
richfed	Posted - January 26 2003 : 06:49:29 AM Are we speaking of the same pages here? The Mohican Board - to the best of my knowledge - is functioning just fine, yes? It's the On the Trail of the Last of the Mohicans home page that displays the little error icon down in the lower left-hand corner of the Internet Explorer browser window, right? If that's what we're all talking about, yes, I noticed that myself. It appears to have surfaced just within the past week. At least that's when I first noticed it. I have tried fiddling around with it - I did find a stray tag that I eliminated - but really don't see anything wrong. Everything seems to work - all links, etc. - so I'm not too concerned. Perhaps it's the script associated with the History Channel box down near the bottom, I don't know. Anyway, as time permits, I'll continue to poke around & see if I can find the culprit. As for the music ... I never had that problem, though several others have brought it up through the years, UNTIL I downloaded one of the more recent Netscape browsers that included winamp as the media player. It seems to be caused - the "dueling soundtracks," that is - by multiple players attempting to play the same piece at the same time. On my system, I fixed it by playing around with the security settings in Internet Options. Here are my settings on IE6: Go to Tools ----> Internet Options ----> Security ----> Custom Settings. The Active X section comes first, & I've got the following buttons selected, in this order: Prompt - Disable - Disable - Enable - Enable. That did it for me ... There may be other solutions.
Wilderness Woman	Posted - January 25 2003 : 3:57:32 PM Yeah! What he said! Only I don't do the browser setting thing... whatever that is! I just grit my teeth. BTW,I use IE 6.
Scott Bubar	Posted - January 25 2003 : 3:41:29 PM I get the same message (I use IE 5). It goes away once the background music stops and reverts to "Done". The background music on the board has always been problematic for me (both old and new boards). I have to set my browser to warn me before running scripts, Active-X controls and so on so I can disallow it when I load the main board page.

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