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Posted - February 13 2004 :  01:05:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Being a native of the West, my favorite film genre is the Western. There's just no better setting for a story than the west. I grew up watching most of these on saturday afternoon tv. The titles listed are the best in my opinion, but which is the best? I know , it's a tuff choice.<):)

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Shane
How the West was Won
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
Jeremiah Johnson
Pale Rider
True Grit
The Shootist
High Noon
Dances with Wolves
Tombstone
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Conagher
Lonesome Dove
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
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Posted - February 13 2004 :  01:14:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I loved all of the movies you listed, but I have to go with " The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly". Eastwood, Van Cleef, and Wallach made a great combo.
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Posted - February 13 2004 :  12:46:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Lonesome Dove is my personal favorite, followed by The Outlaw Josey
Wales, but you left off my other two favorites, CT -- Magnificent Seven and Red River! Watch that stuff, pilgrim!!

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I went with "Dances With Wolves." IMHO, this is an amazing movie, not so much because of Kostner (although I consider it about his best role), but because of the portrayal of, and by, Native Americans.

Another one not on your list that I really enjoy a lot, mostly due to Lee Marvin, is "Cat Ballou." Love his character and love that horse!

"McClintock" because of that popular duo, John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara.

So many westerns... so little time! [<:)]


Hmmmmm... that thing at the end is supposed to be the Smilie Wearing the Cowboy Hat! Don't know why it inserted like that.
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Posted - February 13 2004 :  1:55:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
This is such a hard choice! Sorry if I didn't include your favorite, there's just not enough room for them all!

When I was a kid, my favorite was probably "How the West was Won" for the huge scope of the film, and the cast included just about all of the best actors of the day. I loved Jimmy Stewart's mountain man character!

For most authentic, I'd have to go with "Conagher." Some of the scenes in that film are just so good, it's like your watching the actual event unfold, rather than watching a movie, gives you goosebumps.

Eastwood's best was "Pale Rider," in my humble opinion. A good remake of "Shane" set in California. I think the mysterious "Preacher" character was probably Eastwood's coolest.

And then there's "Jeremiah Johnson," with so many memorable scenes. Del Gue is probably one of my favorite movie characters.

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Posted - February 13 2004 :  11:43:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Blazing Saddles,no?
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Posted - February 14 2004 :  02:34:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
You should have listed "The Unforgiven". Not as good as Josey Wales, but close.
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Posted - February 14 2004 :  1:31:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I wanted to vote twice, but finally went with Lonesome Dove. How the West Was Won was an incredible film, especially for its time.
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I'm your Huckleberry. I loved Val Kilmer as the infamous Doc Holiday. Next to LOTM and Pride and Prejudice, it is my favorite film.

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Rydergrl,
I love Pride and Prejudice!!! Actually, I love all of Jane Austen's novels and films!!!
Okay, I know, I am straying from the subject, so my pick would be The Outlaw Josey Wales. It's got Clint in it, ya know.

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Posted - February 23 2004 :  05:50:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
"Paint Your Wagons" has a great role for Clint Eastwood but does have Lee Marvin pretending to sing.

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I have never see Paint Your Wagons. I'll have to check and see if it is coming on the western channel any time soon.

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Posted - February 23 2004 :  10:08:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I remember the episode where Homer and Bart rented "Paint your Wagon." They were ready for good bloody shoot 'em up western. Instead Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood break out in song, rather than shooting. Homer and Bart were horrified, while Lisa and Marge suddenly became interested.

And yes, the Simpsons have covered everything!

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quote:
Originally posted by Kaylynn44
I have never see Paint Your Wagons. I'll have to check and see if it is coming on the western channel any time soon.

Kay, it is occasionally shown on one of the Turner classic movies channels. I'm not even certain if "Paint Your Wagon" qualifies as a western. It is actually in the musical genre. Kind of a cute storyline about Mormons and miners. It was originally a Lerner and Loewe show, that played on Broadway in 1951.

The particular charms of the movie, for me, were:
#1 The scenery... because it was filmed in the eastern part of Oregon.
#2 The major surprise that Clint could sing pur-ty! "I Talk To The Trees" is a lovely song and he did it quite well. And the major disappoint that Lee could not sing pur-ty!
#3 The utter joy of hearing Harve Presnell sing "They Call The Wind Maria".

Go Here to read an interesting article about the making of the movie.
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Posted - February 23 2004 :  12:05:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Beggin yer pardon, ma'am, it shure ain't a eastern!

Ok, ok, I'll change my vote to "Destry Rides Again"


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No need to change your vote, Kurt. You're right. We can call it a Musical Western.

Works for me!
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Posted - February 23 2004 :  3:45:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kaylynn44's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
We can call it a Musical Western.

Sort of like Oklahoma????

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Omygawd, Harve Presnell singing "They Call the Wind Maria"! I can hear it in my mind now. What a voice! He should have been used A LOT more. Other than that, I think PAINT is fair to partly cloudy.

And, for what it's worth, it was an almost impossible choice, but I voted for JEREMIAH JOHNSON. "Were it worth the trouble?" "Ah, what trouble?"

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This has become one of my favorites--John Ford's THE SEARCHERS. I only saw it for the first time a few years ago. Seems that every time it is on Turner Movie Classics or AMC I will watch it all the way through. I always get a giggle in the scene with Patrick Wayne shows up to report that Scar has been sighted. I also like the character Moz. What a hoot!

By the way, what you think for AMC's format? I hate it! I do not like the commercial breaks every ten minutes nor do I care that silly Saturday Night crowd sitting around critiquing the movie and so forth. Gag!!!

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Posted - February 24 2004 :  4:59:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
McCabe and Mrs. Miller. The anti-Western Western.
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quote:
Originally posted by Two Kettles


And, for what it's worth, it was an almost impossible choice, but I voted for JEREMIAH JOHNSON. "Were it worth the trouble?" "Ah, what trouble?"

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Jeremiah Johnson has some great lines.

Del Gue: Jeremiah, maybe you best go down to a town, get outta these mountains.
Jeremiah Johnson: I've been to a town Del.

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Posted - February 25 2004 :  04:52:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Click to see richfed's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Lonesome Dove ... hands down. Nothing, IMO, matches that for sheer power & emotion on a grand scale, complete with perhaps the most vivid character development ever done on film, along with a not-too-shabby soundtrack.

Another old one I really like - Fort Apache, w/ John Wayne & Henry Fonda.
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I really like Josey Wales, Pale Rider, and Jeremiah Johnson, but voted for High Noon as the best ever because it's such a classic Western story: one man standing alone against the bad guys as all his would-be allies abandon the fight (except one). And a great song, "Do Not Forsake Me O My Darlin,'" which was written for the movie.

Since everyone else is mentioning favorites that aren't on the list, I'll mention one of mine -- The Long Riders, about the James and Younger gangs after the Civil War. A different kind of Western, grittier and less heroic, but beautifully photographed and with an awesome soundtrack -- wonderful Celtic-tinged, Civil-War-era music.
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Posted - March 12 2004 :  7:41:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Kaylynn44

I love Pride and Prejudice!!! Actually, I love all of Jane Austen's novels and films!!!

Okay, I know I'm straying from the subject...



Hi Kaylynn,
Yes we are getting off the subject, but in case you're interested, there are a couple of sites dedicated to Pride and Prejudice--"The Republic of Pemberly" and "The Pride and Prejudice Paradise." They are almost as good as this one--almost!

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Bookworm,

If you liked the music to LONG RIDERS (by Ry Cooder), check out the score to GERONIMO: AN AMERICAN LEGEND. Cooder did the music for that, as well, and it's a haunting mix of Apache chants and 19th century hymns. There's a sequence where some "renegades" are being hanged, and the background music is "Wayfaring Stranger". It's one of the most moving scenes I've ever experienced, due in no small part to Cooder's arrangement of the classic spiritual. And, of course, the movie stars Wes Studi. What more could you ask for...

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Posted - July 10 2004 :  8:33:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
I recently picked up Sergio Leone's "Once Upon a Time in the West"(1969). If you loved "Fistful of Dollars" or "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" and haven't seen this, you should. Same director, same guy did the soundtrack- there's no Eastwood, instead you get Henry Fonda, Jason Robards, and Charles Bronson. Fonda's character oozes EVIL. Great movie, anyone else seen it? Enjoyed it?
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